I've heard this all of the place...can anyone share some thoughts?
Yes. They are more stable, flexible, and compatible than most PC's. Definitely always more stable. That's the main reason.That said, a PC will not make a bad recording computer, by any means. I use mine and love it; but you have to make sure it's fast. For PC's, never go under 2ghz processor speed, and for Macs, I wouldn't go under 1ghz. For either, 1gig of RAM is a MUST!
I do believe that Macs are just better for sound recording purposes than PCs. I'm not entirely sure why, but I attribute it to better available software, and much more stability. Let's not forget the fact that Macs just have faster processors.
Originally Posted by Metalman_666
Let's not forget the fact that Macs just have faster processors. Oh wow... you've just opened a huuuge can of worms...
Originally Posted by DeadSkinSlayer3Yes. They are more stable, flexible, and compatible than most PC's. Definitely always more stable. That's the main reason.That said, a PC will not make a bad recording computer, by any means. I use mine and love it; but you have to make sure it's fast. For PC's, never go under 2ghz processor speed, and for Macs, I wouldn't go under 1ghz. For either, 1gig of RAM is a MUST!More stable? Well, thats the reputation but its a bit overstated to say the least with current technologies. PC's are more common and even more commonly built by people with absolutely no idea what they are doing which is the primary cause of stabilty issues. This can't happen with macs. As far as speed the latest AMD processors have been testing out as about the best there is for audio application. As far as flexible and compatable, not really. The variety of hardware and software available makes the PC platform much more flexible and compatable. If you like macs go for it. Both platforms are more than capable.
Originally Posted by Metalman_666I do believe that Macs are just better for sound recording purposes than PCs. I'm not entirely sure why, but I attribute it to better available software, and much more stability. Let's not forget the fact that Macs just have faster processors.
The processors are not faster. Some of the bus architecturs it uses allow greater performance from the same cpu clock speed but thats a result of other parts ofthe machine getting better efficiency from the processor. After all, 1ghz is 1ghz. Even Apple can't change the laws of physics
It simple... You ask a Mac guy. He will tell you a Mac is better. A PC guy will tell you a PC is better. The Truth? you have to figure out for yourself.
They're also the way to go when viewing porn.
Its a total myth, don't buy into it! PC's are just as good as MACS for audio applications nowdays. Current PC technology has completely caught up in terms of multimedia. Don't let anyone tell you differently as I've seen it with my own eyes. I know a guy who owns an extremely powerful dual 3.2 ghz pentium machine that runs neundo better than any mac I have seen. I've also locked up more MAC's while recording than I ever have a PC. I'm not at all biased but telling the truth as I like both MAC's and PC's for certain applications. It really just comes down to what kind of software you want to run. Programs like digital performer and logic will only run on macs nowdays.
There is no truth...only what works for you, the rest is BS!
Originally Posted by vinterlandIts a total myth, don't buy into it! PC's are just as good as MACS for audio applications nowdays. Current PC technology has completely caught up in terms of multimedia. Don't let anyone tell you differently as I've seen it with my own eyes. I know a guy who owns an extremely powerful dual 3.2 ghz pentium machine that runs neundo better than any mac I have seen. I've also locked up more MAC's while recording than I ever have a PC. I'm not at all biased but telling the truth as I like both MAC's and PC's for certain applications. It really just comes down to what kind of software you want to run. Programs like digital performer and logic will only run on macs nowdays.
quoted for truth.
Originally Posted by RidThere is no truth...only what works for you, the rest is BS!
This is exactly the point I was try'in to make.
Hehe yeah...just thought that it could use another punch at it
Anyways I actually miss my Mac
I'll get both kinds someday.
(1) The OSX kernel was designed specifically for low-latency audio work.
(2) Many hardware devices do not need drivers. For example, you can plug in a PreSonus Firebox, and the Mac will automatically recognize it and start using it for audio in/out. No need to worry about flakey drivers or drivers that no longer work after a system update (exception: M-Audio stuff).
(3) I've never locked up a Mac since OSX came out.
I had a few go's at X...and I really like that OS, thanks for the info MattPete, guess I better dig a G5 or something like that soon
Niels
Originally Posted by RidI had a few go's at X...and I really like that OS, thanks for the info MattPete, guess I better dig a G5 or something like that soon
Niels
I just upgrade my system from a 17quot; Powerbook G4 to one of the new dual-core 2Ghz G5s. Really sweet system.
On the Powerbook, Logic was on the edge -- usually it could handle my songs, but it would occasionally burp and complain. With the dual G5, Logic isn't even breaking a sweat. Adding a Presonus Firebox was as easy as plugging it into the firewire port.
Originally Posted by MattPete(1) The OSX kernel was designed specifically for low-latency audio work.
(2) Many hardware devices do not need drivers. For example, you can plug in a PreSonus Firebox, and the Mac will automatically recognize it and start using it for audio in/out. No need to worry about flakey drivers or drivers that no longer work after a system update (exception: M-Audio stuff).
(3) I've never locked up a Mac since OSX came out.
OSX is basically the BSD variant of unix with a GUI put in front of it. All devices need drivers. MAC's just have them included or run on a generic.
Originally Posted by TheArchitectOSX is basically the BSD variant of unix with a GUI put in front of it. All devices need drivers. MAC's just have them included or run on a generic.
What I meant (which wasn't exactly what I said) is that from the user's point-of-view, the devices don't need drivers. Certainly there are drivers, but they are provided as part of CoreAudio. So, any hardware company that makes their devices compatible with CoreAudio doesn't need to worry about writing their own drivers (e.g. M-Audio).
I love PCs. I love Microsoft. I love INTEL.
I'm evil - fine....
But I love em!!!!
I ran PCs for years from back in the 3.x Windows days through XP. PCs have gotten faster but thats about it. While I got deceiint at digging out drivers from 2nd party sources, updating software to protect from virus and worm infestation and generally buggered up situations that Windows seems to create for itself it was still tiresome and a huge hassle.
I picked up a PowerMac G5 2.2 with 1g ram a year ago July and it runs flawlessly. I haven't even defragged it since I plugged it in. My DVD cam, scanner, printer, ProTools and everything I have loaded or plugged into it since day one has worked perfectly and without hassle.
I can mix a 24 track song, watch and edit video with 3 different messengers running and log onto this forum and not even get close to maxing my system usage.
Keep your PCs, it gives the hackers something to work at.
Yes. They are more stable, flexible, and compatible than most PC's. Definitely always more stable. That's the main reason.That said, a PC will not make a bad recording computer, by any means. I use mine and love it; but you have to make sure it's fast. For PC's, never go under 2ghz processor speed, and for Macs, I wouldn't go under 1ghz. For either, 1gig of RAM is a MUST!
I do believe that Macs are just better for sound recording purposes than PCs. I'm not entirely sure why, but I attribute it to better available software, and much more stability. Let's not forget the fact that Macs just have faster processors.
Originally Posted by Metalman_666
Let's not forget the fact that Macs just have faster processors. Oh wow... you've just opened a huuuge can of worms...
Originally Posted by DeadSkinSlayer3Yes. They are more stable, flexible, and compatible than most PC's. Definitely always more stable. That's the main reason.That said, a PC will not make a bad recording computer, by any means. I use mine and love it; but you have to make sure it's fast. For PC's, never go under 2ghz processor speed, and for Macs, I wouldn't go under 1ghz. For either, 1gig of RAM is a MUST!More stable? Well, thats the reputation but its a bit overstated to say the least with current technologies. PC's are more common and even more commonly built by people with absolutely no idea what they are doing which is the primary cause of stabilty issues. This can't happen with macs. As far as speed the latest AMD processors have been testing out as about the best there is for audio application. As far as flexible and compatable, not really. The variety of hardware and software available makes the PC platform much more flexible and compatable. If you like macs go for it. Both platforms are more than capable.
Originally Posted by Metalman_666I do believe that Macs are just better for sound recording purposes than PCs. I'm not entirely sure why, but I attribute it to better available software, and much more stability. Let's not forget the fact that Macs just have faster processors.
The processors are not faster. Some of the bus architecturs it uses allow greater performance from the same cpu clock speed but thats a result of other parts ofthe machine getting better efficiency from the processor. After all, 1ghz is 1ghz. Even Apple can't change the laws of physics
It simple... You ask a Mac guy. He will tell you a Mac is better. A PC guy will tell you a PC is better. The Truth? you have to figure out for yourself.
They're also the way to go when viewing porn.
Its a total myth, don't buy into it! PC's are just as good as MACS for audio applications nowdays. Current PC technology has completely caught up in terms of multimedia. Don't let anyone tell you differently as I've seen it with my own eyes. I know a guy who owns an extremely powerful dual 3.2 ghz pentium machine that runs neundo better than any mac I have seen. I've also locked up more MAC's while recording than I ever have a PC. I'm not at all biased but telling the truth as I like both MAC's and PC's for certain applications. It really just comes down to what kind of software you want to run. Programs like digital performer and logic will only run on macs nowdays.
There is no truth...only what works for you, the rest is BS!
Originally Posted by vinterlandIts a total myth, don't buy into it! PC's are just as good as MACS for audio applications nowdays. Current PC technology has completely caught up in terms of multimedia. Don't let anyone tell you differently as I've seen it with my own eyes. I know a guy who owns an extremely powerful dual 3.2 ghz pentium machine that runs neundo better than any mac I have seen. I've also locked up more MAC's while recording than I ever have a PC. I'm not at all biased but telling the truth as I like both MAC's and PC's for certain applications. It really just comes down to what kind of software you want to run. Programs like digital performer and logic will only run on macs nowdays.
quoted for truth.
Originally Posted by RidThere is no truth...only what works for you, the rest is BS!
This is exactly the point I was try'in to make.
Hehe yeah...just thought that it could use another punch at it
Anyways I actually miss my Mac
I'll get both kinds someday.
(1) The OSX kernel was designed specifically for low-latency audio work.
(2) Many hardware devices do not need drivers. For example, you can plug in a PreSonus Firebox, and the Mac will automatically recognize it and start using it for audio in/out. No need to worry about flakey drivers or drivers that no longer work after a system update (exception: M-Audio stuff).
(3) I've never locked up a Mac since OSX came out.
I had a few go's at X...and I really like that OS, thanks for the info MattPete, guess I better dig a G5 or something like that soon
Niels
Originally Posted by RidI had a few go's at X...and I really like that OS, thanks for the info MattPete, guess I better dig a G5 or something like that soon
Niels
I just upgrade my system from a 17quot; Powerbook G4 to one of the new dual-core 2Ghz G5s. Really sweet system.
On the Powerbook, Logic was on the edge -- usually it could handle my songs, but it would occasionally burp and complain. With the dual G5, Logic isn't even breaking a sweat. Adding a Presonus Firebox was as easy as plugging it into the firewire port.
Originally Posted by MattPete(1) The OSX kernel was designed specifically for low-latency audio work.
(2) Many hardware devices do not need drivers. For example, you can plug in a PreSonus Firebox, and the Mac will automatically recognize it and start using it for audio in/out. No need to worry about flakey drivers or drivers that no longer work after a system update (exception: M-Audio stuff).
(3) I've never locked up a Mac since OSX came out.
OSX is basically the BSD variant of unix with a GUI put in front of it. All devices need drivers. MAC's just have them included or run on a generic.
Originally Posted by TheArchitectOSX is basically the BSD variant of unix with a GUI put in front of it. All devices need drivers. MAC's just have them included or run on a generic.
What I meant (which wasn't exactly what I said) is that from the user's point-of-view, the devices don't need drivers. Certainly there are drivers, but they are provided as part of CoreAudio. So, any hardware company that makes their devices compatible with CoreAudio doesn't need to worry about writing their own drivers (e.g. M-Audio).
I love PCs. I love Microsoft. I love INTEL.
I'm evil - fine....
But I love em!!!!
I ran PCs for years from back in the 3.x Windows days through XP. PCs have gotten faster but thats about it. While I got deceiint at digging out drivers from 2nd party sources, updating software to protect from virus and worm infestation and generally buggered up situations that Windows seems to create for itself it was still tiresome and a huge hassle.
I picked up a PowerMac G5 2.2 with 1g ram a year ago July and it runs flawlessly. I haven't even defragged it since I plugged it in. My DVD cam, scanner, printer, ProTools and everything I have loaded or plugged into it since day one has worked perfectly and without hassle.
I can mix a 24 track song, watch and edit video with 3 different messengers running and log onto this forum and not even get close to maxing my system usage.
Keep your PCs, it gives the hackers something to work at.
