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from : localhost/Me w/ a few Newcastle in megt; 1957 Gibson ES175 w/ original P.A.Fgt; George L cablegt; Early 1968 Fender Pro Reverbgt; Avalon 2022 MicPregt; Pro Tools HDgt; Some compressor i can't spell right.

1 take, just messin around. Figured ud like to hear the pick-up.

Nice you can really hear the Newcastles there

Seriously it sounds wonderful man.

awesome thanks

Damn! That's a gorgeous sound, and cool licks too! I saved this one to study.

Sweet!

Thats true PAF sound!

So what's the story behind the PAF?


Originally Posted by JacobTMSo what's the story behind the PAF?

I hope you aren't being sarcastic, but basically Seth Lover invented the humbucker pickup in the mid 50s and they were called quot;Patent Applied Forquot; since they were just invented, and the name stuck...Thats what PAF means...They are usually alnico 2 or 5, but there are some of all alnico grades...Usually neck 7.5k-ish neck and 8.2k-ish bridge. PAFs (especially late 50s models) go for $10-$20k a pair on eBay...

wow thats the first time ive EVER heard a Gibson tone that i liked. AND I LOVE THAT! great clip!

Excellent tone! Great playing as well!


Originally Posted by fuzzyratfartsI hope you aren't being sarcastic

I meant, and should've said, quot;What's the story behind your PAF; how'd you get it?quot;

Thanx, doods
Originally Posted by JacobTMI meant, and should've said, quot;What's the story behind your PAF; how'd you get it?quot;

I was all about the archtops amp; Jazz boxes in the 90's. I traded an old jazz player a 1952 Gibson L7 (w/ a floating D'armond p-up), for the ES175. We were at a small club/bar in N.Y. city, and both envied each others box, so we traded right there.

so like could i ever get that tone without buying vintage?

Slick. Very Uptown.

Just waiting for a cab on a rainy night is how this one strikes me... Really tasty... I can't play like this, so I greatly appreciate hearing it done so well.

Blues for yo momma.... yeah right we know your mom played that and not you!! Just playing dude!! Killer as usual!


Originally Posted by nepalnt21so like could i ever get that tone without buying vintage?

You might try stealing.

If you can get away with it, theft's a much sounder financial option than actually buying a PAF.

But if you're not big on stealing, you can probabally get pretty close to a real vintage sound without buying an actual vintage PAF. There are at least 10 pickup manufacturers that pretty much focus on trying to recreate PAF tone in as much detail as possible. Hit up the les paul forum and you'll see all sorts of talk about them. These sorts of pickups run around $150 and up. SD makes quite a few types of pickups that are supposed to sound like PAF's as well.

A big thing with PAFs was that they were inconsistant. Back in the day, there wasn't the sort of standardization you have in modern pickup making. Therefore, there isn't really one set PAF tone, each individual PAF has their own quirks that really can sound quite different. But there are overriding characteristics that they all share, to varying degrees.

There's all sorts of info about real vintage PAF tone all over the internet, check some of it out. Again, the les paul forum's got tons of people who are obsessed with PAFs.

Great guitar man!!
Cool playing, that box sounds awesome.
One thing is the pickup, but here the guitar plays so well that he could have used a pos pickup and it would still have sounded good
Thanks for the clip.

^ I pretty much agree w/ Rid. The guitar is so musical sounding that I have trouble figuring out which out-mojos* which, the pick-up, or the guitar.

*I, soo just made up the coolest word everrrr.

so, i felt like bumpin' it. sue me.