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Personally, I hate guitars with floyds and much prefer a Les Paul style tune-o-matic bridge. However, every now and again I come across a song where a whammy bar is needed for a dive bomb.

Is there any way I can get close to it without actually having a tremolo? Maybe by pushing down on the strings behind the nut? (slightly bad for your guitar maybe)

The small divebomb thing halfway through the opening riff to VH's Panama is what made me think of this thread.

bending the string behind the nut will raise the pitch as if you were performing a string bend not lower it. there may be some kinda effect pedal that can do it but i dont know of any playing techniques that would let you make the pitch lower other than adjusting the tuners to a lower pitch then adjusting it back(EVH style)

A Digitech Whammy pedal sounds just right for you - all kinds of up/down options available, perfect for a Les Paul player...

Dano

I played a Les Paul for years and used to bend the neck for dive bombs. It works. Probably not the best for the guitar. I'd grab the headstock with my left hane and grab near the 3-way with the other and bend away...


Originally Posted by RGNI played a Les Paul for years and used to bend the neck for dive bombs. It works. Probably not the best for the guitar. I'd grab the headstock with my left hane and grab near the 3-way with the other and bend away...

Well, that technique is in Troy Stetina's Metal Guitar Tricks book... with a note mentioning that it probably isn't wise to get too carried away on it.


Originally Posted by RGNI played a Les Paul for years and used to bend the neck for dive bombs. It works. Probably not the best for the guitar. I'd grab the headstock with my left hane and grab near the 3-way with the other and bend away...

...or that

Newer Whammy pedals have the quot;Dive Bombquot; setting, which sort of sounds like a bottomed out Floyd. I'm used to using a Floyd for that, so the pedal's sound kind of makes me cringe, but I'm sure it's more than adequate for a part or two here and there.

Man, make sure you don't ever do that neck bending **** on an SG...

In a recent Guitar World mag, Zakk Wylde showed how he did that. Listen to quot;I Don't Want To Change The Worldquot; off quot;No More Tearsquot;. He pulls off some dive bomb type stuff that sounds like it would be done with a floyd or even a digitech whammy pedal but it's neither. All in the fingers. I'll try and find the article so you can get the back issue. It really is cool.

A slide can be used effectively to do it, as well as doing the whole Zakk Wylde cross hands trill.


Originally Posted by DeadSkinSlayer3

Zakk Wylde cross hands trill.

how do you do that?


Originally Posted by Tux789how do you do that?

Barre the strings with your right hand, then with the right, start doing a trill about 6 or 7 (or however many) frets higher, then slide the whole process down the neck.


Originally Posted by JB_From_HellBarre the strings with your right hand, then with the right, start doing a trill about 6 or 7 (or however many) frets higher, then slide the whole process down the neck.

ah cool thanks

The cross hands trill is a little different. It's not exactly a dive bomb and you can hear the trills as you move down the neck. Listen to the solo on quot;I Don't Want to Change The Worldquot;, from about 2:10 to 2:12. He does the dive bomb trick there. It involves some string bending.

Go watch the master if you want to know how....

Michael Schenker....

KING OF ALL NECK SNAPPERS

friggin Scary to watch...especially on a V. He's very calculated with it compared to other people who kind fo just do it haphazardly.

Also watch the Randy Rhoads videos posted over in the OT forum...the quiet riot piece has alot of neck bending...

I do it, but I don't recommend it though....especially if you don't have anything as stable as a Paula with big fat 50s neck and no upper cutout. You can and eventually will snap a neck if you do it with any kind of authority.