I want to get rid of the locking nut in my floyd equipped fender strat special. Is there a way to do so and replace it with a normal non locking nut?????? Do you know of any webpage that describes the process???
not to sound like an ass, but why do you want to do that?
whats the problem with just loosening the screws
cause i recently bought a much better floyd equipped axe (a hamer chapparal) so i want to turn my fender floyd strat onto a completely stock one with normal tremolo, nut and SSS pickup configuration. Just loosening the screws is not the best idea.....alla that metal stuff at the headstock is not the best thing for tone.............
Allparts.com carries conversion nuts, made of ebonol. I got one on my strat neck and it works great. only thing is you gotta get the right shims for it.
I think locking tuners is good because it prevents the string from becoming outta tune often for some guitars. However if I had the idea of just removing the locking nuts permanently, I would just remove the screws and let it be. Cuz usually floyd rose guitars come with locking nuts cuz of the whammy quot;allowancequot; which could cause the guitar to go outta tune
Originally Posted by DesertRoseI think locking tuners is good because it prevents the string from becoming outta tune often for some guitars. However if I had the idea of just removing the locking nuts permanently, I would just remove the screws and let it be. Cuz usually floyd rose guitars come with locking nuts cuz of the whammy quot;allowancequot; which could cause the guitar to go outta tune
Locking tuners will only quot;improvequot; tuning stability if your bridge and nut are set up correctly. Simply installing locking tuners on your guitar will NOT automatically mean you'll stay in tune no matter what.
Floyd equipped guitars have locking nuts (assuming they are double locking anyways) because it helps guarantee that the string length remains the same after heavy trem use, hence keeping the guitar in tune. (A potential problem with quot;regularquot; tuners is that the windings can slip, essentially changing the overall string length and therefore the tuning). Again, all of this rides on a proper setup, even with a Floyd and a lock nut.
I suppose going for a traditional nut, wont be too big a problem. But the 'footprint' of the locked floyd nut is way bigger. Also, make sure that the break-over (fulcrum) string position is precisely in the same/correct place, or else your whole tuning/intonation/function of your axe will go for a ball...
Also, hopefully the body routings are good for strat-trad trems. Also, be sure that your fretboard radius is good for conversion. Mine is very flat. Is this true for strats with floyds too? Will your pickups be spaced and height adjustable for the conversion? Also you say SSS, that's a big general overhaul. Wiring, trem, nut, pups, string trees and whatnot. Maybe buy a whole new Strat?
Originally Posted by FretFire
(A potential problem with quot;regularquot; tuners is that the windings can slip, essentially changing the overall string length and therefore the tuning). Again, all of this rides on a proper setup, even with a Floyd and a lock nut.
That can't be stressed enough. All the locking tuners in the world aren't going to do diddly if the strings catch in the nut to begin with.
Are there an awful lot of 'nut' threads lately?
That's fine if you don't mind the guitar being out of tune all the time. A floyd will never stay in tune without a locking nut no matter how well it's set up. It's designed to work with it, not without it.
I filled in the locking nut area of my old cheap Kramer neck... I was not going to buy a Floyd for such a peice of poop for a neck... I got a piece of rosewood fingerboard i have lying around for repairs and sawed a small piece off the end of the board.... I found that i was able to glue in a piece that looked like it belonged there... grain matched extremely well.... The neck is still a piece of poop as the non angled hockey stick headstock is awful for tuning trouble!
Enough of my troubles..... I'd say just buy a new strat instead of removing that floyd..... You will be happier in the end. For sure many people out there want a strat with a Floyd.... you should have no trouble selling your's.....
not to sound like an ass, but why do you want to do that?
whats the problem with just loosening the screws
cause i recently bought a much better floyd equipped axe (a hamer chapparal) so i want to turn my fender floyd strat onto a completely stock one with normal tremolo, nut and SSS pickup configuration. Just loosening the screws is not the best idea.....alla that metal stuff at the headstock is not the best thing for tone.............
Allparts.com carries conversion nuts, made of ebonol. I got one on my strat neck and it works great. only thing is you gotta get the right shims for it.
I think locking tuners is good because it prevents the string from becoming outta tune often for some guitars. However if I had the idea of just removing the locking nuts permanently, I would just remove the screws and let it be. Cuz usually floyd rose guitars come with locking nuts cuz of the whammy quot;allowancequot; which could cause the guitar to go outta tune
Originally Posted by DesertRoseI think locking tuners is good because it prevents the string from becoming outta tune often for some guitars. However if I had the idea of just removing the locking nuts permanently, I would just remove the screws and let it be. Cuz usually floyd rose guitars come with locking nuts cuz of the whammy quot;allowancequot; which could cause the guitar to go outta tune
Locking tuners will only quot;improvequot; tuning stability if your bridge and nut are set up correctly. Simply installing locking tuners on your guitar will NOT automatically mean you'll stay in tune no matter what.
Floyd equipped guitars have locking nuts (assuming they are double locking anyways) because it helps guarantee that the string length remains the same after heavy trem use, hence keeping the guitar in tune. (A potential problem with quot;regularquot; tuners is that the windings can slip, essentially changing the overall string length and therefore the tuning). Again, all of this rides on a proper setup, even with a Floyd and a lock nut.
I suppose going for a traditional nut, wont be too big a problem. But the 'footprint' of the locked floyd nut is way bigger. Also, make sure that the break-over (fulcrum) string position is precisely in the same/correct place, or else your whole tuning/intonation/function of your axe will go for a ball...
Also, hopefully the body routings are good for strat-trad trems. Also, be sure that your fretboard radius is good for conversion. Mine is very flat. Is this true for strats with floyds too? Will your pickups be spaced and height adjustable for the conversion? Also you say SSS, that's a big general overhaul. Wiring, trem, nut, pups, string trees and whatnot. Maybe buy a whole new Strat?
Originally Posted by FretFire
(A potential problem with quot;regularquot; tuners is that the windings can slip, essentially changing the overall string length and therefore the tuning). Again, all of this rides on a proper setup, even with a Floyd and a lock nut.
That can't be stressed enough. All the locking tuners in the world aren't going to do diddly if the strings catch in the nut to begin with.
Are there an awful lot of 'nut' threads lately?
That's fine if you don't mind the guitar being out of tune all the time. A floyd will never stay in tune without a locking nut no matter how well it's set up. It's designed to work with it, not without it.
I filled in the locking nut area of my old cheap Kramer neck... I was not going to buy a Floyd for such a peice of poop for a neck... I got a piece of rosewood fingerboard i have lying around for repairs and sawed a small piece off the end of the board.... I found that i was able to glue in a piece that looked like it belonged there... grain matched extremely well.... The neck is still a piece of poop as the non angled hockey stick headstock is awful for tuning trouble!
Enough of my troubles..... I'd say just buy a new strat instead of removing that floyd..... You will be happier in the end. For sure many people out there want a strat with a Floyd.... you should have no trouble selling your's.....
