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i need a really strong metal tone in the likes of a dual rectifier,or bogner ubershall for my peavey classic 50 4x10 combo.
dont care for effects just wanna use it for the simple rectifier like ripping distortion.will play linkin park covers...thats why.
which one:
uber metal or POD 2?

no one?
BUMP

Either one is good. Personally I have a flex 3(Has same effects as the pod). Im looking to get the Uber Metal just to hear it give gain on some of the Amp models that don't seem like they have enough. Know what I mean?

Thats an odd comparison.

Both are different things. The POD2 will cost a lot more, but then you get a lot more too! But you already said that you don't care for all the effects.

If you want only a blistering metal tone, stick to the single stomp boxes (uber metal, os maybe a BOSS metal zone). That's more suitable for playing in a band too. Easy foot control, small and light.

I've got the übermetal and I'm very happy with it. The übermetal will give you three distinct metal sounds with lots of gain. While the 80s metal isn't my favorite choice (I never I use it), the other two are really sounding good and make up a good rectifier copy. They are built very sturdy (a very heavy metal case) and I've never had a problem with'em. The sounds is also very adjustable because of the parametric mid-controller (cut/boost and frequency knob). If you'd like, I can record some clips for you - but I think someone already posted a clip in another thread (which made me buy mine). Another alternative would be the metal zone (which I hate) or the new digitech distorion simulator pedal...

thanks guys.
i´ve owned a digitech metal master and although the rythm was terrific with some bassy lines,solos seemed as if my guitar tone knobs had bin turned all the way down.
absolutly no high end definition,no matter what setting.
the metalzone is a joke and im not after that 80´s metal tone,just rectifier ones for the linkin covers we have to play.
laST QUESTION,DO YOU THINK A SANSAMP GT2 COULD DO BETTER THAN THE UBER FOR THAT STUFF? cause behringer has released a way cheaper clone,something like 30 bucks.

mesa preamp tube pedal. i dun know the modell name, its outta production now. its kinda pricy but it rocks like no tomorrow. i played it but dun own it.

if yur talkin bout the black rocket pedal forget it....even if i liked it,to much money for me.
but thanks anyways man.
com on POD usersssssss!!!!
i know yur out there.help me on this one.
do you guys feel that you need more gain?what could fit fill the gap,the uber,GT2? up to 130 bucks if possible.

The POD gives me plenty of gain. I don't use the rectifier setting that much but i have got convincing metallica tones out of it. The POD would do the job. I have no experience with the Uber metal so i can't compare the 2

hey Mr Wolf,some people tell me the pod xt isnt so good for the really heavy stuff.
should i stick tqo the pod2?

As far as i know the XT just has more amps and effects, i haven't heard that the XT can't do heavy stuff as well. I always thought the XT could do what the POD2 could do a few more options. The POD 2 does the job though, it has various marshall, vox and fender models, a rectifier model etc. If u want only a Recto model the POD2 can be had cheap 2nd hand. I've heard good things about tech21 sansamp stuff though, since that stuff is analogue it may be better. Go to a shop and try a load of stuff out.

some guy at harmony central said something about the rectifier setting ont the xt not bieng as good as the pod2.

XT has newer models, but essentially the same thing been updated, I have no trouble getting heavy tones.

quot;Sound Quality: 6
I used to have POD2 for many, many years. I resisted the temptation to upgrade to PODxt mainly because I knew of the Model Packs, and didn't want to go through the hassle of separately ordering them for PODxt - and, on the other hand, didn't want an xt *without* those packs either. As it happened, someone who knew of this attitude of mine offered to sell me his (used) PODxt that already had the Model Packs installed. I was game.
A word for the quot;scr*w the digital modeling units, buy a good tube amp insteadquot; folks out there: you must be still very young or otherwise not married yet. Trust me - when you get older and marry (if you ever do), you *will* learn to appreciate the benefits of being able to get ok tone at bedroom volumes. Yeah, I quite agree that a real cranked JCM 800 produces a much more satisfying tone, but if I even tried to bring that Marshall stack to our bedroom - let alone *crank* it - all kinds of things would start flying around. Cups, saucers and worse things. No way, I love my wife. But I also love playing, and therefore, these modeling preamps offer a very satisfying compromise between an ok tone (not *great* but ok anyway) and extremely low volume.
As for the actual tones: I have owned/still own various Line 6, Boss and Korg modeling units. I used to like the amp models of POD2 better than any of Boss or Korg. It was nice to discover that, in many ways, PODxt was a step up from POD2. I have used a Marshall JCM 800 half-stack amp; a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier combo for a long time (and still prefer them when playing live!) and it was very nice to hear (for the first time in my life) a Marshall emulation that actually made me think of my real JCM 800. With POD2, I just couldn't stretch my imagination that far - with PODxt, it still does not sound quite right, but it is a huge step in the right direction and now definitely *within* the scope of my imagination. The clean tones are more sparkling than before, and the multitude of tones (with the Model Packs) available is simply overwhelming. Talk about option overload!
Another significant advantage: with PODxt, the amp models react to your pick attack at least semi-realistically. With POD2, the notes would just go on and off as if you were hitting synth keys. I much prefer the PODxt way.
But as you can see, I did not give PODxt a very good score here. Ok, so now it is time for the gripe section. While the clean and crunch tones of PODxt were very impressive, I am really saddened that the distorted high-gain tones are actually much worse than they were in POD2. I *do* appreciate the improved definition and clarity, but, I am sorry to say, the PODxt high-gain amp models simply suck. Compared to POD2, they sound thin, brittle, trebly, grainy and... of all things, digital. Even those (Line 6 Treadplate, Line 6 Insane) that are supposed to be the same as in POD2.
I actually did an A/B test with a Korg AX-1500G (a very inexpensive entry-level modeling mfx unit that I had bought at one point for bedroom playing). Using a real Dual Rectifier as a reference point, I had tweaked the Korg to produce as realistic an emulation as was possible with the very limited possibilities of the 1500G. It sounded somewhat right, but was miles away from the real thing. And guess what? When I A/B'ed the Korg sound with the PODxt Treadplate Dual model, I could hardly them apart! I would have definitely failed a blind test. No so with POD2.
I am deeply saddened that the new state-of-the-art amp models by Line 6 should sound exactly like a cheap Japanese imitation. Even with the Model Packs, I could find only 2 or 3 high gain models that were usable - at least for leads, for rhythm playing that annoying digital sizzle makes them pretty much unusable. With POD2, all high-gain models were usable and definitely far superior to Korg. Whatever the advantages of PODxt may be, this is an enormous step backward. quot;Submitted by L.P. at 03/23/2005 23:20 quot;


Originally Posted by madguitar26some guy at harmony central said something about the rectifier setting ont the xt not bieng as good as the pod2.

On the XT they have a rectifier setting, and a copy of the rectifier setting from the pod2 aswell, apparently a lot of people didn't like the new recto model, that's why they did it.

The Mesapedal was the V-Twin, wasn't it? I've also been after that, but it's simply way too expensive for me. Since I got the schemastics I thought about building it myself but haven't had the time yet and I'm still undecided wat to integrate in my tubeamp. But soundwise this pedal rocks like hell...

If you're not into the Metal Zone, you definitely won't like the 80s metal setting from the ubermetal. but the other two are really god and have gain set at 12o'clock more than enough gain for my taste. Just give it a shot
I listened to online clips from the sansamp stuff but I didn't like the sound. Nothing compared to the Ubermetal - on a total subjective scale

sure will dude and the behringer clone cause its dirty cheapo
thanks all for the comments

First of all, most of the reviews on Harmony Central are written by teenagers who know three chords, so take them with a grain of salt.

Second, I am a PodXT owner and I am very happy with the high gain tones. The Recto is great, and I love the Soldano model. I don't use the high gain models that much, unless you count the Plexi Variac, but they do sound very good for when I need them.

That said, I don't think the Pod is what you are looking for. My Pod sounds awesome when plugged into my home studio, but I have been completely unsuccessful with getting a decent tone when it's plugged into my Mesa combo (see my earlier thread about using a modeler in a live setting). The Pod is designed to work by itself, and when you run it through a tube amp you change the tone too much and it sounds pretty bad. Your experience may be different, but I doubt it.

If you want something to use with your existing amp in a live setting, get the uber metal. You will be a lot happier that way.


Originally Posted by gramsThe Mesapedal was the V-Twin, wasn't it? I've also been after that, but it's simply way too expensive for me. Since I got the schemastics I thought about building it myself but haven't had the time yet and I'm still undecided wat to integrate in my tubeamp. But soundwise this pedal rocks like hell...

If you're not into the Metal Zone, you definitely won't like the 80s metal setting from the ubermetal. but the other two are really god and have gain set at 12o'clock more than enough gain for my taste. Just give it a shot
I listened to online clips from the sansamp stuff but I didn't like the sound. Nothing compared to the Ubermetal - on a total subjective scale

yeah, the V-Twin. thats one mean pedal. i'll see if i can get it from ebay used. i love the sound.

i have the uber metal and, IMO, it sucks a lot. I could not get a good sound out of it, so i got a 6505 and im in heaven. I would suggest not getting an uber metal.