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Are Trembucker pickups wound with the same gauge wire as their G spaced equivalents? Or do they use 43 gauge on Trembuckers instead of 42?


Originally Posted by JWRAre Trembucker pickups wound with the same gauge wire as their G spaced equivalents? Or do they use 43 gauge on Trembuckers instead of 42?

Same wire as the standard spaced version (I assume that´s what you mean by G-Spaced... I know F-spaced,. but G is new to me...)

Btw, not all standard spaced pickups are wound w/ 42 guage, common gauges that I know are correct are:

42 for pafs
43 for the customs
44 for JB/Distortion/ Invader

FWIW

I guess I should have used the word standard spacing. I have a trembucker Screamin Demon that I like, but wish to experiement with a pickup that is not F spaced.
If the F spaced pickup is 3mm longer, wouldn't you either need to use more wire to equal the number of turns, or less turns to equal the amount of wire of the standard spaced pickup? At 5000 turns, that is 15,000 millimeters variance.

Using the Screamin' Demon as an example, Does the Trembucker have the same number of turns or the same length of wire? Are they the equivalent in resonant frequency and DC resistance?

BTW, thanks for the info on the wire gauges. Is the EVH trembucker 42 or 43 gauge?


Originally Posted by JWR....

If the F spaced pickup is 3mm longer, wouldn't you either need to use more wire to equal the number of turns, or less turns to equal the amount of wire of the standard spaced pickup? At 5000 turns, that is 15,000 millimeters variance.

Correct

Using the Screamin' Demon as an example, Does the Trembucker have the same number of turns or the same length of wire? Are they the equivalent in resonant frequency and DC resistance?

The trembuckers are wound to sound exactly like the standard spaced version.... the Res Freq and DC res are usually identical AFAIK....

I know there are other factprs than wire length that go into that, such as eddy currenty, inductive properties and other stuff, but I´m not a pickup engineer.... Others can certainly give better info

No idea on the wire guage of the ´78 ... lookint at the DC res of something like 9k I´d assume it´s 42g enamel, quot;PAF stylequot; so to speak... but I´ve never owned one, much less taken it apart


Originally Posted by JWRI guess I should have used the word standard spacing. I have a trembucker Screamin Demon that I like, but wish to experiement with a pickup that is not F spaced.
If the F spaced pickup is 3mm longer, wouldn't you either need to use more wire to equal the number of turns, or less turns to equal the amount of wire of the standard spaced pickup? At 5000 turns, that is 15,000 millimeters variance.

Using the Screamin' Demon as an example, Does the Trembucker have the same number of turns or the same length of wire? Are they the equivalent in resonant frequency and DC resistance?

I was wondering the same thing. I can tell you that I've owned both a JB Trembucker (17.1kOhms) and a Screamin' Demon Trembucker (11.1kOhms) and both had higher measured DC Resistance than what is published for them. I'm guessing that they use the same number of turns which ends up putting more wire on the bobbin, thus increasing the DC resistance. Just my opinion, though.

Diameter of the wire determines the specific resistance. One guage to next higher guage number means 16 up to 25% more resistance! That means a PAF (10,000 turns with 42 ga) has 8k, with 43ga wire it has probably about 9.5k.

Thanks, Therefore, a Trembucker would not have the same DC resistance as a standard spacing humbucker unless it has less turns. If, it has the same number of turns of the same gauge wire, that 10K Screamin Demon, in Trembucker form is more like 11K as noted.

Are there any other examples of Trembuckers that show a resonant frequency and dc resistance that is different that the standard spacing? I think my TB is darker than the std one I got (I can't measure it because I swapped for a '59)

Let's make a simple calculation:
Same number of wounds on a 63x25mm coil instead of a 60x25mm coil would mean approxm 3.5% tolerance in length and d.c. resistance... what was the tolerance of the wire used? If I remember right it was /- 5%?!??


Originally Posted by JWRAre Trembucker pickups wound with the same gauge wire as their G spaced equivalents? Or do they use 43 gauge on Trembuckers instead of 42?

G spaced= gibson spaced?