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Had rehearsal @ Ultrasound last night, and I got to play the Diezel VH-4 again, this time with my Strat (1979 hardtail, Joe Barden pups) ...

Man, that is a sweet amp! Cosmetically, it'a a bit of a wreck, because the layout is somewhat confusing on the front panel.

At first I was using channel 1 for clean and channel 4 for distortion, but at one point I switched to channel 3 my Fulltone Full-Drive 2. It sounded more gainy, less 'modern' and was much smother/fatter. However, it was also noisy, so I went back to going straight into the head for the remainder ...

I also love the mute function on the footswitch, as well as the assignable FX loops, also controlled from the foot switch.

I have absolutely no room for this amp, nor would I necessarily want to buy one, but along with the VHT Pitbull 50, I would love to have this amp sitting around, just to have it.

feel free to buy it and leave it at my house, i'll glady use it/store it for you since you don't have the room hahaha and i'm local so you can come pick it up whenever you want lol...i'm dying for a VH4 or a herbert...eventually i will own one or the other!!! what cab did you play it through?

-Mike

The cab was a straight Diezel 4x12, not on casters, so there was a bit of a bass hump from it sitting right on the floor ...


Originally Posted by TwilightOdysseyThe cab was a straight Diezel 4x12, not on casters, so there was a bit of a bass hump from it sitting right on the floor ...

Any idea what kinda speakers? I'm working like a fiend to try and get one of these. I haven't bought anything guitar related for quite some time...

Diezels are about as good as it gets for hard rock and metal players who need a lot of versatility...

If it's good enough for Neal Schon...


Originally Posted by alecleeIf it's good enough for Neal Schon...

I have issues with the 'modern' tone of channel 4; I still think the Rivera smokes it for old school metal tones.
The amp has an effortlessness that I can really get behind, tho, as well as a kind of natural elegance to the sound ... it's very seductive.
But, since my wife would kill me if I were to buy one, this is pure fantasy for me.

Matt Bellamy (Muse) uses Diezel. Nuff said.

I thought Matt Bellamy was using Marshall JCM 2000 stuff. It's not like his tone is a spectacular thing anyway. He gets really neat sounds, but his actual guitar amp tones are pretty standard.

as far as I know, the VH4 is supposed to be a smokin' amp! Unfortunately no guitar store I know sells these boutique brands like Diezel and Bogner!!

I know Adam Jones of Tool uses one along with a Dual Rectifier.


Originally Posted by proxyI know Adam Jones of Tool uses one along with a Dual Rectifier.That's one of the things I've found funny about Diezels.....

....I know of a couple of bands that use them (Korn, Metallica, Tool), but I don't know of any bands that only use them....they always seem to have other amps as well.

matt belamy of muse, is in the marshall amps catalogue, he not only uses them, he endorses them. Marshalls i mean, though doesnt mean to say that he doesnt also use a diezel.

Guitar player gave the herbert a very good review a little while back. Said it could nail the early VH tone, as well as do buzzsaw and nice cleans. Sounds very impressive.

Do yourself a favor TO. Sell all the other stuff and you'll be very close to the price they usually sell for (which is around 3 grand). That type of versatility, power and reliability is what every serious guitarist needs.


Originally Posted by screamingdaisyThat's one of the things I've found funny about Diezels.....
....I know of a couple of bands that use them (Korn, Metallica, Tool), but I don't know of any bands that only use them....they always seem to have other amps as well.

The guitarist from Silverchair had a backline full of 'em when they opened for VH. The guy plays McNaught guitars, too. Very booteek rig.


Originally Posted by TwilightOdysseyI have issues with the 'modern' tone of channel 4; I still think the Rivera smokes it for old school metal tones.

Fortunately for my wallet, I agree that Diezel high gain is too modern for my taste.


Originally Posted by BigBazzmatt belamy of muse, is in the marshall amps catalogue, he not only uses them, he endorses them. Marshalls i mean, though doesnt mean to say that he doesnt also use a diezel.

mode four for cleans, VH-4 wired up to a MIDI rack for everything else

Cabwise, a MF 4x12 and a purple soldano 4x12 respectively

(this is the absolution tour, there was a complete backup rig of everything! )

Hehe...

Matt Bellamy used to use a marshall, a soldano and... er... another one (think it was a laney, not sure.... will check when I get home), but for Absolution he took to using Deizels. I think his guitars sound really cool, and his playing is awesome (guitar and piano)... if you listen to the Origin of Symmetry, there are a lot of reked-out guitar sounds. For absolution he scaled back a bit, but then stuck a whole bliddy orchestra in instead. Go figure...

Anyway, anyone who disses matt bellamy gets a kick in the cajoolies from me. He's the first guitar hero of this century. So there. Mwa haah.

most of the OOS album was done with a ZVex Fuzz factory i think... lovely pedal.

it wasnt just the tone that made OOS wicked though, listen to citizen erased and try and work out whats going on chordwise

edit: bit of trivia, dead star was done with a russian big muff through a bass amp, i read somewhere

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