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Hi guys, so I was at the guitar store today, and I figured what the hell I wanna try a USA Jackson and see what all the fuss is about. I got a salesperson to get me the RR1 Rhoads (Jumbo frets, JB/Jazz pickups, alder body/ebony fretboard), and we plugged it into a Roland Cube 60 on the R-Fier setting.... well..... I started playing the guitar and WOW!!!!

Pulling off solos and runs I've dreamed about was never so easy! The action was so perfect, I barely had to touch the strings and I was blazing around on the fretboard with the most ease I've ever felt playing a guitar. On a side note, the Cube 60's R-Fier setting was some of the sweetest gain I've ever heard! Does a real Recto sound a lot better or what?

So my real question is, is there any way I can get this superb playability on my Ibanez, even though the Jackson has Jumbo frets and the Ibanez has Medium? I've tried adjusting my action but maybe it can go lower? How do I know when I've put it too far down, or when I've got it as low as it can go without buzzing or causing other problems?


Originally Posted by Metalman_666So my real question is, is there any way I can get this superb playability on my Ibanez, even though the Jackson has Jumbo frets and the Ibanez has Medium? I've tried adjusting my action but maybe it can go lower? How do I know when I've put it too far down, or when I've got it as low as it can go without buzzing or causing other problems?

You'll know it's too low when it's all buzz and no sustain. What guage strings do you use on the Ibanez? The Jackson was probably strung with a 9 set.

The SZ does not have the Prestige neck I believe. Try one of the Ibanez RG models. I think it will give any Jackson a run for its money. I like mine better than the neck on my Les Paul. The prestige necks have jumbo frets and the neck is incredibly thin. A comparable guitar would be an Ibanez RGT2020 or JEM.


Originally Posted by Metalman_666Hi guys, so I was at the guitar store today, and I figured what the hell I wanna try a USA Jackson and see what all the fuss is about. I got a salesperson to get me the RR1 Rhoads (Jumbo frets, JB/Jazz pickups, alder body/ebony fretboard), and we plugged it into a Roland Cube 60 on the R-Fier setting.... well..... I started playing the guitar and WOW!!!!

Pulling off solos and runs I've dreamed about was never so easy! The action was so perfect, I barely had to touch the strings and I was blazing around on the fretboard with the most ease I've ever felt playing a guitar. On a side note, the Cube 60's R-Fier setting was some of the sweetest gain I've ever heard! Does a real Recto sound a lot better or what?

So my real question is, is there any way I can get this superb playability on my Ibanez, even though the Jackson has Jumbo frets and the Ibanez has Medium? I've tried adjusting my action but maybe it can go lower? How do I know when I've put it too far down, or when I've got it as low as it can go without buzzing or causing other problems?

It may be possible but, Maybe you need to save up for a Jackson!!!
Jackson RULES!!!

Schetcers have the best necks. Never felt anything better! (and I have played many Jacksons) I agreed wih the statement about the sting gauges. Jacksons are always sold with 9's on them, which makes them easier to play.

Dude,
I think you know as well as everyone else reading this what the inevitable answer is:

Get the Jackson.

Jackson USA is the most underrated guitar company on Earth. They make kickass guitars for players.

Besides, at a concert in front of the Suicide Girls, if two identical twins play the same solo note for note, one on an Ibanez the other on a RR1...who do you think is going to get naked and who is going home to Mrs Thumb and her Four Sisters?

IMHO Ive NEVER played an Ibanez, including Prestiges, that would match any of my Jacksons. Getting a Low-end Ibanez to play like a Jackson without paying enough on tech-work to buy a used USA Jackson outright is more or less impossible.

Grab yourself the Jackson, you won´t regret it (but your other guitars might) Originally Posted by Schecter006EliteSchetcers have the best necks. Never felt anything better! (and I have played many Jacksons) I agreed wih the statement about the sting gauges. Jacksons are always sold with 9's on them, which makes them easier to play.

And what exactly are you trying to tell us by this?? 90% of the guitar manufacturers on this planet string up new guitars with .009s be default because it IS statistically the most often bought guage and has been for the last 20 years. The others use 9-46 or some rare ones use 10s, Gibson being the most notable exception.

Jackson just happens to list what they string with because it´s a quality string and they feel that the customer has a right to be informed. Or how many other manufacturers tell you outright where their pots and switches come from, for example. On most guitars you´ll go through hell just to find out what brand they´re strung with, much less which guage.

Has nothing to do with Jackson at all, it´s simple logic: If more people play 9s, then you´ll sell more guitars that way than if you strung everything up w/ 11s


Originally Posted by usagiThe SZ does not have the Prestige neck I believe. Try one of the Ibanez RG models. I think it will give any Jackson a run for its money. I like mine better than the neck on my Les Paul. The prestige necks have jumbo frets and the neck is incredibly thin. A comparable guitar would be an Ibanez RGT2020 or JEM.

SO wrong. the ibanez RG necks suck donkey balls! WAY too thin and it wont give any jackson a run for its money and especially not a USA series one. the profile of the jackson neck is diferent and that makes it feel better. the ibeenhad necks are just paper thin blocks of wood.
the prestige necks are better, but dont go comparing the wizardII necks with the others. they're the worst stuff out there... but to each his own i guess.

if he felt like one with the jacky thats the axe for him. shame its a bit pricy. i'd look for a used one on ebay

about the recto setting: yes. the real thing is better because it's the real thing. the preset is just a close aproximation of the beast and it wont get you as much sound, gain, etc etc etc as the real rectifier.

On the neck topic: Remwember guys, a LOT of this is personal preference, esp. regarding neck profile. But I will say that I have yet to see a machine finished and clearcoated neck that comes anywhere near a hand profiled and finished one, especially as soon as it get´s oiled

man, i LOOOOOVE oil finished necks.. sooooo smooth its unreal!!

Want me to strip the clearcoats off the fusion and oil her up for ya?


Originally Posted by ZerberusWant me to strip the clearcoats off the fusion and oil her up for ya?

check PM soon

Is it just me or, whenever I have played an Ibanez RG neck, It seems like a cheap knockoff of the neck on my SL-4?


Originally Posted by theodieIs it just me or, whenever I have played an Ibanez RG neck, It seems like a cheap knockoff of the neck on my SL-4?

Depends, the Ibanez guys will tell you your SL-4 is an expensive knockoff of an RG


Originally Posted by ZerberusAnd what exactly are you trying to tell us by this?? 90% of the guitar manufacturers on this planet string up new guitars with .009s be default because it IS statistically the most often bought guage and has been for the last 20 years. The others use 9-46 or some rare ones use 10s, Gibson being the most notable exception.

Jackson just happens to list what they string with because it´s a quality string and they feel that the customer has a right to be informed. Or how many other manufacturers tell you outright where their pots and switches come from, for example. On most guitars you´ll go through hell just to find out what brand they´re strung with, much less which guage.

Has nothing to do with Jackson at all, it´s simple logic: If more people play 9s, then you´ll sell more guitars that way than if you strung everything up w/ 11s

I doubt that new guitars being strung with 9s has anything to do with what people prefer, but more that they're easy to play. It's interesting that a guitar that's super-way-too-easy to play sells better than a guitar that sounds good (10s or heavier, slightly higher action).


Originally Posted by theodieIs it just me or, whenever I have played an Ibanez RG neck, It seems like a cheap knockoff of the neck on my SL-4?

I think the Prestige necks play better. That being said think Jackson is a great guitar. I like the paper thin RG more. However, I have not played a top end USA Jackson, for fear of being over come with GAS


Originally Posted by Daveyman, i LOOOOOVE oil finished necks.. sooooo smooth its unreal!!
I'll have to second That!!!

I'm planning on buying a neck thru Jackson or Charvel once I find a good price.

For everyone's info, the Ibanez is strung up with 10-52 (didn't look in the sig did you ), and NO, it does NOT have a bloody prestige neck, because it is not a prestige model, it's just an Ibanez neck... the site doesn't say anything about it. Now, I know that the lighter the string gauge the lower you can set the action, and yes I'm very well aware the Jackson was strung with 9-42, but could I not set the Ibanez to play at least half as sweet?

Haven't played the SZ. Lowering the action and string gauge would help. I assume you are down tuning? If not no problem. You may find 9s too loose at low tunings.