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Hails Guys...
i´mhavingsomeissues with my spacebar,HAHAHAHAHA AS YOU NOTICED... and with my capslock too... but i want to askforhelp on the string department...
i have that charvelfusion deluxe with rainbow crackle..that i love...
i´mcurrently using D standard tuning and 0.11 strings
they arepretty tensioned..OK,nottoomuch,but enough..
i like the tension on the 1,2,3,4 strings... Buton 5 and 6 strings they are kinda flabby...
someone toldme that it is a charachteristic of the daddario strings ...
and i don´t want to increase the string gauge,cause it will be a lot HARD tensioned .. so.. doyou recomend me another brand that will solve this flabby problem?
in fact.. the 5 stringis not that flabby, JUST a little, but the low E(6 string)is resonating morethan enough and making those caracteristic noises when played AT THE GATES kinda riffs.. you know?!!?
please,if anyone can help,i´ll appreciate...
Also.. if youthink that this is NOT my problem... tell another solution..something like... IS THAT POSSIBLE TO fix this problemby just making a adjustement tomake the 5 and 6 stirngs tighter without the need tochange the string brand ?
J.P

It's not the brand that's a problem. I've never had a problem with D'adarrio's and being flabby. Does it do this when the guitar is unplugged, or only plugged in? I'm not quite sure I fully understand the problem. Does it sound too flabby or feel to flabby? If it feels too flabby, then you need tin inrease the guage. If it sounds too flabby, I think it's your amp.

I'm not really familar with tuning low to play heavy metal or the like, but I think if you've tuned every string a whole step flat you're tuned to low. What are you tuned to? DGCFAD? That's to low with the string gauge you are using. I tune my acoustic guitars low sometimes but it's to an open tuning: DADF#AD or DGDGBD and my high quot;Equot; is a .012. But with those tunings not every string is tuned low...just some.

Anyways, I think you're tuned to low...

WFD, go to a 12-52 set with that tuning.

Try a set of Ernie Ball Hybrids . . . .

You HAVE to put thicker strings up there the lower you tune. . . . thats what holds the string tighter given the same tune. Yeah it sucks, but it will SOUND tighter and your fingers will get used to it in a couple weeks bro. Try it.

My brother in law uses Jazz strings because his band drops all the way to B. . . .

i have made great experiences with the Everly X-Rockers. Those strings are perfect for downtuning and they come in gauges specifically designed for low tunings. As far as i know their core and winding is special to keep them tight. Maybe you should try the 11-56 set which they recommend for D.

An 11 set is plenty heavy for a whole step down. You can always go heavier, but honestly, 9's can go down to D if you adjust your attack appropriately. As far as quot;too low,quot; Zerb will probably chime in and back me up here, but I've tuned down a whole octave (baritone guitar 18-80 guage strings) and made it work.

JP, are you using a heavy pick? I don't think I've ever heard you mention what type you use. I was using the thick purple ones (1.14mm) for a long time, and recently tried the yellow ones (.73mm) and it's working out a lot better. Also, are your Fusions 24.75quot; scale? Short scale lenghts can be problematic for low tunings.

I use D'adarrios Jazz Rock 11-49's tuned to C with a Gibby 24 3/4 scale, a fixed bridge and have no issues. It could be just your type of trem. My brothers Kramer has a floyd with a 25 1/2 scale the same strings and when its tuned down it just sounds like flub.

Well correct meif i´mwrongbut... HYBRID strings are intended to be used in guitars with thAT double action truss rod?
like you can set the truss rodon the higher 3 strings one way,and on the low 3strings anotehr way!??!!
i´maffraid i´ll damage the neck by usinghybrid strings.
thats the reason i never bought one.

Originally Posted by 80's_MetalTry a set of Ernie Ball Hybrids . . . .
You HAVE to put thicker strings up there the lower you tune. . . . thats what holds the string tighter given the same tune. Yeah it sucks, but it will SOUND tighter and your fingers will get used to it in a couple weeks bro. Try it.
My brother in law uses Jazz strings because his band drops all the way to B. . . .
No, a hybrid set won't damage the neck. Try adding another spring to the bridge and readjusting it, as well.


Originally Posted by JB_From_HellAn 11 set is plenty heavy for a whole step down. You can always go heavier, but honestly, 9's can go down to D if you adjust your attack appropriately. As far as quot;too low,quot; Zerb will probably chime in and back me up here, but I've tuned down a whole octave (baritone guitar 18-80 guage strings) and made it work.
JP, are you using a heavy pick? I don't think I've ever heard you mention what type you use. I was using the thick purple ones (1.14mm) for a long time, and recently tried the yellow ones (.73mm) and it's working out a lot better. Also, are your Fusions 24.75quot; scale? Short scale lenghts can be problematic for low tunings.

hailsman
AND HAILS GUYS
thank´s for theawesome support.
IT´SA ****ING PLEASURE To ask for help from you
Well.. i´m using always dunlop picks
medium ones
medium/hard.
Never thick ones
i don´tlike thick picks.
it prevent´s me to attack faster.
yousaid that ineed otadjust the attack? i know what you mean... the attack is how hard the strings are tensioned right?
i guess the problem may be this .. but no one seems to know how to adjust it properly in my town.. and they give the worst of the APPOLOGIES. I GET ****ING mad about that
.
hUMM I don´t know how to measure that scalelength stuff.
DAVEY has the sameguitar i have
i´ll askhim
but ipropably knwoabout that so..thats the reason i´mtunning it to DROP D standard. and nottodrop C.
SORRY, MY SPACEBAR IS ****ED UP ahahahahahah
THANK´S guys
THANK´S JB
j.p

By attack, I mean how hard you pick and fret the strings. Try lightening up with your picking hand a bit.


Originally Posted by WITH FULL DISTORTIONWell correct meif i´mwrongbut... HYBRID strings are intended to be used in guitars with thAT double action truss rod?

Which idiot told you this??... Total BS

like you can set the truss rodon the higher 3 strings one way,and on the low 3strings anotehr way!??!!

You misunterstand the function of a DA truss-rod... the function is Identical to a normal vintage truss rod, merely achieved differently.

BTW, A fusion Deluxe HAS a double expanding trussrod, so even if you had correctly understood the fnction it would be no reason not to use hybrid sets
i´maffraid i´ll damage the neck by usinghybrid strings.
thats the reason i never bought one.

No worries, bro

For that tuning on a short scale guitar I´d use 13s, but I play 12s in standard... 11s shouldn´t be an issue. You just have to adjust your picking attack to match the lowr tension (In other words quot;pick softerquot;).


Originally Posted by DeadSkinSlayer3It's not the brand that's a problem. I've never had a problem with D'adarrio's and being flabby. Does it do this when the guitar is unplugged, or only plugged in? I'm not quite sure I fully understand the problem. Does it sound too flabby or feel to flabby? If it feels too flabby, then you need tin inrease the guage. If it sounds too flabby, I think it's your amp.

hAILS uNHOLY JEFF
THANK´SFOR CHIMEIN
well.. the problem is: it IT DOESN´T Sound TOO MUCH flabby, but considerably flabby PLUGEDIN. andunplugged itsound´s equally or lessflabby
IT Sounds Kinda Slack youknow? it vibes MORE than enough unplugged.. and when i try to Mute it,like in the AT THE GATES kindariffs.. it didn´t mute enough or faster enough.
and i don´t have the sameproblem in the red charvel, but it´s 0.10 and E standard. ahahah and pretty tensioned strings.. i need to set the attackless tensioned though. toomuch hard topick in it.
did you understand the problem now?
TO ME, if i have a guitar that i could play 08´s or 09´s tuned in C or B Standard,would be great
HAILS
J.P


Originally Posted by WITH FULL DISTORTION....
TO ME, if i have a guitar that i could play 08´s or 09´s tuned in C or B Standard,would be great
HAILS
J.P

On a Non baritone this is impossible. and even on a standard baritone it would be excessively flabby.... maybe with a 30quot; scale (which would make it a 6 string bass).....

The lightest/lowest combo I've ever seen is Tony Iommi's setup (this is close, I'll find out for sure in a minute), 9, 10, 14, 20, 30, 38, and is tuned to C#
His Eb set is even lighter, like 8, 8, 12, 18, 22, 32.


Originally Posted by ZerberusOn a Non baritone this is impossible. and even on a standard baritone it would be excessively flabby....

When I had a Yamaha Drop 6, I did a lot of experimenting, and the lightest comfortable set (for B standard) was 10-52. It felt similar to a set of 9's in standard on a Les Paul.

ahahah Holy crap
but i think it´s because of the problem he has on the fingersof the left hand. right?

ineed to leavenow,i´ll be back soon
keep writting, i´ll read it when i comeback
THANK´S
j.p


Originally Posted by WITH FULL DISTORTIONahahah Holy crap
but i think it´s because of the problem he has on the fingersof the left hand. right?

Yeah, but it's actually his right hand (he's left handed). Can you believe such a huge, heavy ass sound comes out of strings that light? It kinda disproves the theory that you need heavy strings to sound big.