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any implications of using their tilt back headstock neck with a wilkinson trem? I'll probably go with the warmoth pro construction one for my strat build coming up.

I can't think of any, but I know there's some guys on here that are a whole lot more learned in such matters.

The tiltback headstock will put more downward pressure on the nut slots... can't figure out whether that's good or bad. My first thought is quot;badquot; because it might make it harder for the string to return to tune, but JohnJohn, Zerb, or KMC oughta' know better than I do.

I can tell you that a Gotoh-Wilkinson tremelo bridge with a GraphTech Trem Nut and staggered height locking Sperzel tuners works fine with a standard strat-style headstock.

Chip


Originally Posted by Fresh_StartI can tell you that a Gotoh-Wilkinson tremelo bridge with a GraphTech Trem Nut and staggered height locking Sperzel tuners works fine with a standard strat-style headstock.

I would to that before getting a tiltback headstock too.

The amount of pressure put on the nut by the strings will be alot more uniform with a tilt back headstock then not. If ur not using a locking nut but have a tremolo it should be more stable when it comes to tuning.


Originally Posted by Fresh_StartI can tell you that a Gotoh-Wilkinson tremelo bridge with a GraphTech Trem Nut and staggered height locking Sperzel tuners works fine with a standard strat-style headstock.That's probably the setup I'd use if I was going with a Wilky. Plus I just prefer a straight headstock on a strat type guitar for some reason...

well the reason I ask is the straight headstocks with the dual action truss rod are butt adjust only where the tilt back headstocks are adjustable at the headstock. I also like the 3 per side headstock.


Originally Posted by Xeromuswell the reason I ask is the straight headstocks with the dual action truss rod are butt adjust only where the tilt back headstocks are adjustable at the headstock. I also like the 3 per side headstock.Can't you get the side adjust now? Or is it not available on the pro construction necks...

Oddly i have a Godin with a tilt back headstock and a nonlocking trem and it stays in tune pretty good..... And i have some Fender strats that don't stay in tune at all. I find that really strange. The Godin must just be set up right.

I would love to be able to dive with the bar like Eddie did on the first 2 VH tours and still stay somewhat in tune. I have done ton's of experiments getting a standard trem to stay in tune. I had no luck with my Fenders but my Warmoth strat i did. My Warmoth has an Fender American Standard strat Trem and locking tuners, the same set up on my Fender Strat. I lub the nut, don't use any string trees and tune down a half step. With light strings and tuned down to E- and with the strings off the nut as much as you can i can stay in tune somewhat. I tried the same with different tuners other then locking and wrapping the strings higher up the post to get the pressure off helps.

the end of the story.....The tilt back headstock may add too much pressure on the nut to stay in tune.... But i still can't explain my Godin.

WhoFan

Tilt back doesn't adversely affect the guitar and looks badass!!

A degree of tilt, or rather angle over the saddle) is NECESSARY, the only reason Fenders use string trees ifs because they wouldn´t achieve a great enough angle for good tone and sustain without them.

Carvin, for example, tilts their heads 11°, 11° is widely regarded as the quot;perfectquot; angle for a trem to have the strings breaking over the nut...As does Jackson on Guitars such as the AT-1 which have wilkinsons...

IMO, not an issue...going more toward 17° I´d start to worry, but the 13 are just fine, a good nut and decent (locking) tuners are 100x more important


Originally Posted by FretFireCan't you get the side adjust now? Or is it not available on the pro construction necks...

Yeah, you can...

from : localhost/www.warmoth.com/guitar/necks/...ion=sideadjust

the setup from one to the other will be a wilkinson trem, graph tech nut, 13 degree tilt back headstock, and sperzel locking tuners. Any problems foreseeable?

one more bump


Originally Posted by Xeromusthe setup from one to the other will be a wilkinson trem, graph tech nut, 13 degree tilt back headstock, and sperzel locking tuners. Any problems foreseeable?

No ... and that should be pretty hot!!


Originally Posted by Xeromusthe setup from one to the other will be a wilkinson trem, graph tech nut, 13 degree tilt back headstock, and sperzel locking tuners. Any problems foreseeable?

None - that is exactly the setup I installed on my ibanez. No problems at all (I'm not exactly sure of the headstock angle Ibanez uses, but I can't imagine that it is too far from 13 degrees).

The side adjust necks still adjust primarily at the heel. You adjust the rod so that the neck is straight with no string tension. Then after you string it up, you can use the side adjuster to fine tune the truss rod.

Ryan


Originally Posted by rspst14The side adjust necks still adjust primarily at the heel. You adjust the rod so that the neck is straight with no string tension. Then after you string it up, you can use the side adjuster to fine tune the truss rod.

Ryan

Right, but you don't have to remove the neck if you want to adjust, which sucks testicles.


Originally Posted by FretFireRight, but you don't have to remove the neck if you want to adjust, which sucks testicles.

not on the 13 degree headstock, the warmoth pro necks are then adjustable at the headstock. Now you see why it's so attractive to me.


Originally Posted by Xeromusnot on the 13 degree headstock, the warmoth pro necks are then adjustable at the headstock. Now you see why it's so attractive to me.Haha, yes I've understood that all along , I was just curious if you could get the side-adjust on the pro construction necks or not. Pretty much an unrelated topic that came to mind upon reading quot;warmoth neckquot; and quot;truss rodquot; on the same page. My apologies for any confusion.