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who has compared the dimebucker to the bill lawrence xl500? i am interested in both pickups, but the dimebucker is expensive and i dont know enough about the xl500. any info is appreciated.

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One word of nonrelated advice about the XL500 is do NOT buy from Bill Lawrence USA, which is a part of Torres Engineering, IIRC. It's a sh*tty knockoff of the Bill Lawrence pickup.

yeah, thanks. i already read about the long long story and all that. if i get the lawrence it will be from billlawrence.com

I wish I could help but, I only have experience with the XL-500. I would like to try out the Dimebucker though. Consider this a bump!!

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the dimebucker is better than the 500xl
read all about it yourself here,
What bridge pickup did Dimebag Darrell use?
Dime was on a tone quest for a long time before he and Washburn Guitars came to us. He had tried numerous custom wound pickups, but none were giving him the tone he was looking for. At the time Dime and Washburn came to us, Dime was using a custom wound pickup that he called an XXL-500. It was not available to the public. And it was still not giving Dime his tone. That's when Dime and Washburn turned to us. We started with Dime's best-sounding XXL-500 and then made numerous tweaks. We changed the magnet type, the wire gauge, the number of turns, and other factors. Dime tested the pickups on tour, so they got real world quot;arenaquot; testing. After a few back-and-forth exchanges, we finally nailed his tone. And that's the SH-13 Dimebucker. It's the pickup that Dime used and -- for the first time -- the pickup Dime used is available to the public. It works great in Dime's solid state amps as well as tube amps. For more information about Dime and the Dimebucker, read his interview on this site. Dime did a great job describing the distortion quality of the pickup. We were very priviledged to work with Dime and we mourned his tragic death. R.I.P.and click here for dime's own opinion,

from : localhost//website...ive.shtml#dime

None of that means the Dimebucker is quot;betterquot; than the XL500. Dime liked the tone more but, that dosent mean that it is better or that most people will think its better in their book. Tone is subjective, there isnt any rules or laws saying which one is better to everybody. I am planning on picking up a dimebucker and comparing it to my XL500. I will be able to tell which one is better for me when I do it.

BTW, have you played either of them? The Dimebucker or the XL-500.

I owned several late 70's XL-500L pickups and nothing else sounds like them, I wish I had kept them becuase it is like chasing your tail trying to capture a tone in your head.

I've never tried a Dime but I am tempted since I know he liked the originals as well.


Originally Posted by SABOTAGEthe dimebucker is better than the 500xl
read all about it yourself here,
What bridge pickup did Dimebag Darrell use?
Dime was on a tone quest for a long time before he and Washburn Guitars came to us. He had tried numerous custom wound pickups, but none were giving him the tone he was looking for. At the time Dime and Washburn came to us, Dime was using a custom wound pickup that he called an XXL-500. It was not available to the public. And it was still not giving Dime his tone. That's when Dime and Washburn turned to us. We started with Dime's best-sounding XXL-500 and then made numerous tweaks. We changed the magnet type, the wire gauge, the number of turns, and other factors. Dime tested the pickups on tour, so they got real world quot;arenaquot; testing. After a few back-and-forth exchanges, we finally nailed his tone. And that's the SH-13 Dimebucker. It's the pickup that Dime used and -- for the first time -- the pickup Dime used is available to the public. It works great in Dime's solid state amps as well as tube amps. For more information about Dime and the Dimebucker, read his interview on this site. Dime did a great job describing the distortion quality of the pickup. We were very priviledged to work with Dime and we mourned his tragic death. R.I.P.and click here for dime's own opinion,

from : localhost//website...ive.shtml#dime

well that just means its better in Dimebag's opinion (Rest in peace). but im not looking for that tone. i dont really play heavy metal.


Originally Posted by theodieNone of that means the Dimebucker is quot;betterquot; than the XL500. Dime liked the tone more but, that dosent mean that it is better or that most people will think its better in their book. Tone is subjective, there isnt any rules or laws saying which one is better to everybody. I am planning on picking up a dimebucker and comparing it to my XL500. I will be able to tell which one is better for me when I do it.

exactly
Originally Posted by theodieBTW, have you played either of them? The Dimebucker or the XL-500.

i havent tried either but i want to

Why don't you buy both of them and keep the one you like and sell the other here. I bet it would go fast. I think that's the only way to find it out for yourself.

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Originally Posted by nepalnt21who has compared the dimebucker to the bill lawrence xl500? i am interested in both pickups, but the dimebucker is expensive and i dont know enough about the xl500. any info is appreciated.

I can only go by what this states,

What bridge pickup did Dimebag Darrell use?
Dime was on a tone quest for a long time before he and Washburn Guitars came to us. He had tried numerous custom wound pickups, but none were giving him the tone he was looking for. At the time Dime and Washburn came to us, Dime was using a custom wound pickup that he called an XXL-500. It was not available to the public. And it was still not giving Dime his tone. That's when Dime and Washburn turned to us. We started with Dime's best-sounding XXL-500 and then made numerous tweaks. We changed the magnet type, the wire gauge, the number of turns, and other factors. Dime tested the pickups on tour, so they got real world quot;arenaquot; testing. After a few back-and-forth exchanges, we finally nailed his tone. And that's the SH-13 Dimebucker. It's the pickup that Dime used and -- for the first time -- the pickup Dime used is available to the public. It works great in Dime's solid state amps as well as tube amps. For more information about Dime and the Dimebucker, read his interview on this site. Dime did a great job describing the distortion quality of the pickup. We were very priviledged to work with Dime and we mourned his tragic death. R.I.P.

also here is what dime himself had to say,

from : localhost//website...ive.shtml#dime


Originally Posted by dr.barloWhy don't you buy both of them and keep the one you like and sell the other here. I bet it would go fast. I think that's the only way to find it out for yourself.

BIf you do....make sure the 500XL is a zebra with crome surrounds!! If you don't like it... you have my word I'll buy it! 65 Dollars...you actually profit.
Oh by the way.....That would be insane to put The 500XL in the neck and The Dimebucker in the Bridge! Or vice versa....I have heard both work well in the neck anyways.

I think if you simply compare Dime's Tone from Cowboys from Hell(500xl) and his done form reinventing the steel or Damage plan(sh-13) you can get a pretty good idea of the 2 pups.

I love his CFH tone and dislike his Damage plan tone.

Cutting and pasting a bunch of stuff from Dime is irrelevant to which is better. Every endorser says their stuff is the best. Dime obviously thought the 500XL was good enough to use for how long...10 years or something until he got paid to put his stamp on the dimebucker. I'm not saying either one is better, just decide from someone who has compared, or even better, from your own comparison.


Originally Posted by wixomwhatI think if you simply compare Dime's Tone from Cowboys from Hell(500xl) and his done form reinventing the steel or Damage plan(sh-13) you can get a pretty good idea of the 2 pups.

I love his CFH tone and dislike his Damage plan tone.he was also using completely different rigs with CFH vs. damageplan

but you cant tell the difference in the way his guitars sounded?


Originally Posted by wixomwhatbut you cant tell the difference in the way his guitars sounded?

Yes, obviously, but there are no constants in his gear. Different amp, different guitar, different effects, different production technology amp; techniques... it's really not a good comparison.

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