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I have always been a strat player, and I am not fond of shorter, 24.75quot; scales.

HOWEVER, I love the sound of a Les Paul like no other - thick, deep, just huge. I was wondering if in fact some guitar company out there makes a guitar like a Les Paul, but with the 25.5quot; scale and preferably 24 frets (this would be my ultimate metal/shred guitar).

I'm guessing its the sheer size of a Les Paul and the Mahogany wood that creates the huge-osity of the LP, but there must be some guitar out there that shares these qualities ! ?THANKS!Eric

The Nighthawk? The only thing about this guitar is that you cannot change the bridge pickup, they are unique to this model. I don't think you will get an exact Les Paul sound out of a 25.5quot; scale, but this is close. They are made of the same wood (mahogany w/ 1/4quot; maple cap), only with a bit of a thinner body profile and a string-through bridge, which I prefer over the stoptail. They also have a slimmer neck.
PRS's are 25quot; scale...that's a compromise.

If you want a 25.5 LP like guitar and you have some cash you want to spend and you are looking for top quality, go for a GMP pawnshop model. You could also do a Warmoth. If you want the LP sound you will have to use the 24.75 scale though.

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Sorry had to say it......

Early PRS models share a lot of qualities of each.

Brian Moore ... some of thier guitars are made of mahogani body and neck with 25.5quot; scale with 24 frets. and of course thick and deep tone.

A Jackson AT-1 comes close (tonally, AND weight wise) to a Les Paul, quite atypical for a Jackson... but they have dual cutaways, a smaller body, 22 frets and a maple neck.....

IMO, you are never going to be happy.

I went through this many years ago...trying to find something that WASN'T a Paul, that sounded just like one. I spent alot of time, ALOT of money, and got super frustrated.

The mass, the thickness of the body, the single cutaway, the neck (hell, even the 50's and 60's necks sound different due to mass weight), the scale, the headstock angle, the number of frets, set neck vs. neck through, etc etc. Thats what makes a LP sound like a LP. It's the total package..sum of all the parts. Not any particular ones.

Either get a Paul or a very similar copy like a Heritage if you want that sound. For non-paul guitars the closest I ever came to was with a late 80's Explorer with an ebony board and some Duncans. The ebony board helped because it brightened the tone up a bit like a maple cap. Also the increased mass of the big body helped. But it still didn't have that LP quot;bloomquot; or low mids.

Good luck, but I think you'd be better served in the long run enjoying each particular instrument for what it is

Look into the new SC series from Ibanez. They're advertising them as being quot;heavierquot; sounding than their usual shred/numetal axes. Mahogany bodies, thicker than your normal Ibanez. In-between scale of 25.1quot;. The web page isn't quite set up with them yet, but if you use the search function and enter quot;SC420quot;, you'll find 'em.

I guess they're Ibanez' answer to the PRS McCarty. Seems that everybody has a PRS knock-off thees days: Carvin's California Carved-Top, Peavey's pushing something similar. Immitation is the highest form of flattery.

Not to tickle my own pickle, but i find that my double cutaway guitars (even the flat top models) get closer to the Lp territory because of the longer wider nkc tenon (more bass repsonse) and the mahogany bodies).
Not sure how quickly you need your fix, but perhaps this is an option to consider. check out the link in my signture.

This sucks. It sounds like I'm eventually going to have to bite the bullet and just settle with a Paul, not that that's a bad thing.

BTW, blueline, I love your gauge guitars! I think they are beautiful, but I'm not sure how much money it would cost me... They look superb!

I'm not the biggest fan of PRS guitars - they look and sound great, never really got the vibe for them...

I had looked at Brian Moore, but apparently not closely enough. I never really gave them much of a chance - I would always pick one up: quot;Oh, it's nice...quot; and put it down.

thanks my friend
the prices are all on the cite

if you're considering a paul or a prs...