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These are common on Ibanez guitars with two humbuckers. They allow some interesting combinations - without a PRS type rotary switch. I cannot find a source by googling.

There's a few folks who hate those cheap import 5-way's. Offer to trade them for a Fender 5-way in the Trading Post section.

Also, I believe that Guitar Parts Resources sells them. Look at the YM-30 and YM-50.

just make sure that the switch you want to put in there will fit the cavity of your ibanez .. i have a 540s and it was too skinny to fit a real superswitch or megaswitch .. i had to come up with my own schematic (using the stock ym-50 and an on-off-on mini toggle), with gracious expert help from the tone bros on here, to get exactly what i want in my HSH guitar .. and yes, i got 4/5ths of the PRS options (plus more!) .. just couldnt do the inner - series .. which i don't love that much anyway ... inners and outers (parallel) rock!

good luck

t4d

Would something like this work?
from : localhost/www.stewmac.com/shop/Electron...er_Switch.html


Originally Posted by n00bWould something like this work?
from : localhost/could work, but I don't know how to wire them! If I could understand the principles, then I could try one, but the ibanez website has lots of diagrams that I could use.

Any books/websites out there on how to wire from scratch?


Originally Posted by jmcoreyIt could work, but I don't know how to wire them! If I could understand the principles, then I could try one, but the ibanez website has lots of diagrams that I could use.

Any books/websites out there on how to wire from scratch?

I've got a megaswitch in my Ibanez RG. It fits without a problem.

The quot;wiring principlesquot; are not too hard to understand. My megaswitch came with a lot of examples and some general instructions. With the super switch you have a lot of options. If you've got any questions feel free to ask.
I can post an example if you'd like...

It's generally about connecting the hot/ground/coiltap wire to signal or ground output.

Here a some examples for a normal humbucker with 4wires:

a full humbucker:
hot --gt; signal
coiltaptap --gt; not connected
ground --gt; ground

coil a:
hot --gt; signal
coiltaptap --gt; ground
ground --gt; not connected

coil b:
hot --gt; not connected
coiltaptap --gt; signal
ground --gt; ground

coils in parallel:
hot --gt; signal
coiltaptap --gt; ground
ground --gt; signal

the switch from stewmac has 6 pins on a quot;planequot; (and 4 planes):
depending on the switch position pin 1-5 is connected with the 6th pin on each plane.
you can use a plane to switch the desired wire to ground (out) or to signal (out).

I hope that helped so far...
If you'd tell us your pickup config and your desired switching I'll make a nice drawing that's much more understandable

if you tell us what switch and pups you want and what switching options you want, we can usually get you close if not all the way there ... i have not found a good book to learn this stuff ... you just have to get you head around the schematics that are available and apply the changes that you want ...

like i said, we'll help ya figure out how to get tehre if you tell us where you wanna go

cheers
t4d


Originally Posted by gramsyou can use a plane to switch the desired wire to ground (out) or to signal (out).

I hope that helped so far...
If you'd tell us your pickup config and your desired switching I'll make a nice drawing that's much more understandable

Thanks, but does that mean that each wire gets assigned to one of the four planes and then direct to signal from there or to ground?


Originally Posted by tone4daysif you tell us what switch and pups you want and what switching options you want, we can usually get you close if not all the way there ... i have not found a good book to learn this stuff ... you just have to get you head around the schematics that are available and apply the changes that you want ...

like i said, we'll help ya figure out how to get tehre if you tell us where you wanna go

cheers
t4d

Thanks. Two standard double coil HBers.

Ok, position 1 is pointing toward the bridge, 5 toward the neck.
1) Bridge HB
2) Inner coils in parallel
3) Two HB pups in parallel
4) Neck in parallel
5) Neck HB


Originally Posted by jmcoreyThanks. Two standard double coil HBers.

Ok, position 1 is pointing toward the bridge, 5 toward the neck.
1) Bridge HB
2) Inner coils in parallel
3) Two HB pups in parallel
4) Neck in parallel
5) Neck HB

what switch? the superswitch from that stew-man link above? a stock ibanez switch? or something else? any mini toggles involved?

let us know and we can chew on it

cheers
t4d


Originally Posted by tone4dayswhat switch? the superswitch from that stew-man link above? a stock ibanez switch? or something else? any mini toggles involved?

let us know and we can chew on it

cheers
t4d

How about the Stew Mac 4-pole 5-way super switch? No toggles, just that switch.

still working it - harder than i thought - but doable, indeed

artie - you scratchin on this ?

cheers
t4d

hi, I think I've got it. I hope I've made no error - so please correct me, if I'm wrong...I should say, that I tried to model the super switch:
it has two rows of pins, each in a 1-5-5-1 pattern
this line goes from top to bottom...

And I should also say, that I just moddified a SD image and hope that I don't get sued by them for using their copyrighted material

this is very nice artwork you have done!!! .. i think the SD artwork is allowed to be copied here for helping each other out because it is not for profit ...

i am checking your wiring now ... isn't the superswitch wired like this?

C = Common

C 5 4 3 2 1 | 5 4 3 2 1 C
C 5 4 3 2 1 | 5 4 3 2 1 C

also, did you account for the magnet flip and reverse wiring in order to make position 2 humcancelling? ... this is the part i am stuck oni think you need to have him flip the bridge magnet, then wire the black wire fromthe bridge pickup to ground with the bare, and send the green wire to the switch

t4d

I checked on a SD schematic and both had green-gt;ground and black as hot - but I'm still not shure. I assumed the both pup's are wired like this:
black --gt;
white
-----
red --gt;
green

My drawing is based on the following superswitch config (1 = neck, 5 = bridge):
C C
5 5
4 4
3 3
2 2
1 1

5 5
4 4
3 3
2 2
1 1
C C

ok, yes, we agree on the switch ... perhaps i misunderstood when you wrote 1-5 5-1 pattern

yes, the black=hot / green=ground is usually correct ... but i am pretty sure that to preserve hum cancelling in position 2 (inner/parallel) he must do a magnet flip and a reverse wiring

t4d

Hey guys, thanks a lot. Now, could one or both of you explain how 1 or 2 of the positions works, so I understand it?

Thanks....

i'll give it a shot ...

it might help to think of it while tracing through the circuit with your finger ....

let's look at an easy one first, in the switch position for bridge humbucker only ... start at ground and go through the green wire ... go around the coil and come out the red wire ... it is connected to the white wire (in this case, it doesnt matter that they are both attached to the switch lug because that lug isnt active with the switch in this position) ... which goes around the second coil and comes out the black wire ..... which goes through the switch to the output

note that when the switch is in this position, the neck pickup's coils are never switched to the output ...

the same logic holds with the switch in position for the neck humbucker only ... note that in this case, the little jumper between the lugs make the red/white connection and the bridge pickup's output never makes it to the output ...

in position 3, both of the pickups output get routed to the output

position 2 and 4 are trickier to describe in words ... and i am not sure we have gotten that part of the schematic correct yet

hope this helps

t4d

ps - do you understand how the switch works from the

C 5 4 3 2 1 | 5 4 3 2 1 C
C 5 4 3 2 1 | 5 4 3 2 1 C

notation?

INACCURATE IMAGE DELETED - SEE CORRECT WIRING DIAGRAM BELOW
this is as clsoe as i have been able to get .. it is outer coils in parallel instead of inner ... i'll keep scratchign on it .. it requires a magnet flip for the bridge pup and takes into account the need to wire it backwards

somebody check me out?

thanks
t4d


Originally Posted by tone4daysps - do you understand how the switch works from the

C 5 4 3 2 1 | 5 4 3 2 1 C
C 5 4 3 2 1 | 5 4 3 2 1 C

notation?

Thanks for taking me through the wires and the pups, but, not, I don't understand the notation above. Not sure what the switch is contacting in each of the 5 positions and how that relates to the common quot;Cquot;.