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Hey all, as some of you know I've been looking for a tube amp, and after some great advice from everyone here (thanks!), I'm stuck between a Peavey Classic 30 and a Traynor YCV20 combo. Both are a 1X12 combo, with a master volume and reverb. Now the Peavey is 30 watts, and comes with a Blue Marvel speaker. Unless the speaker was incredibly great I'd plan on changing it to a Greenback speaker or G12H30. The Traynor is 15 watts, Class A, with a Greenback speaker standard. They are both around the same price, the Traynor being only a little bit more. Now I'd be using whichever one I get for practice at home, with my fledgeling band, and eventually (and hopefully) some small shows. So here's my question : how many watts is enough for that? 15 or 30? Thanks!

For home ... I'd go 15.

For home 15 watts is plenty. For playing in a band I'd say a minimum of 30 - 40 watts is needed. I've been using two 22 watt Deluxe Reverbs lately with my band. I'm trying to decide whether to go with a multi amp set-up consisting of two Fender Deluxe Reverbs and two tweed Fender 5E3 Deluxes or just go with my two Matchless amps. Lew


Originally Posted by LewguitarFor home 15 watts is plenty. For playing in a band I'd say a minimum of 30 - 40 watts is needed. I've been using two Deluxe Reverbs lately with my band. I'm trying to decide whether to go with a multi amp set-up consisting of two Fender Deluxe Reverbs and two tweed Fender 5E3 Deluxes or just go with my two Matchless amps. Lew

Wow Lew--that's like trying to decide if you wanna go out with the two Penthouse Pets or the two Playboy Playmates. I think you win either way. Woo Hoo!!!

I use an 18 watt for all my gigs, haven't had to mic it yet.


Originally Posted by 75lespaulWow Lew--that's like trying to decide if you wanna go out with the two Penthouse Pets or the two Playboy Playmates. I think you win either way. Woo Hoo!!!
The thing is, I like to play in stereo, when I want it, when I'm using my smaller amps.

So I can set up one pair of DR's for cleanish blackface style tones and one pair of 5E3's for more rootsy sounding quot;tweedquot; tones. I play alot of styles and go for a few differant tones depending on the tune. I've been splitting the signal to my two blackface DR's with a stereo Chorus alothough the chorus is rarely on...but when it IS on, the sound is huge. And since my 5E3's don't have reverb, I've been splitting the signal to them using a Boss Stereo Reverb or Stereo Digital Delay that's set to barely being audible. It's cool! I use a Kendrick A/B/C box to select either pair, and I have my Fulltone '69 and Clyde Deluxe Wah Wah feeding only the tweed Deluxes though the '69 and Clyde Deluxe are rarely actually in use...but they're there when I want them. So far, I don't have any effects on the blackface DR's except stereo chorus...and that also is usually turned to off and is just being used to split the signal. Lew

i think you guys missed something. The traynor is class A, which, in terms of volume, puts it somewhere around a hot rod deville

i still say traynor though, good amps

Actually, the Peavey Classic 30 is 22 watts. Anyway, I've put my 60-100 amps in the closet. I used my 15 watt Gibson GA 15RV at band practice this weekend and didn't even have to turn it up past 10:00. That's with a loud drummer and bass player.

On the back of my peavey classic 30 where it has all that crap it says 30 watts, 22 volts, are you sure? Mine is an older one though, back when they were made in america

I used to play in a rock band with a loud drummer. My old 19w Gibson combo was nowhere near loud enough.

I guess it depends on your application. In the band I'm in now- if I were playing guitar- I wouldn't be able to function without 30w and a sealed 2x12, I'm not a big fan of combo amps.

If I were playing at home 15w is too much. If I were playing with a quieter band 15w would work.

I can get by at rehearsal with a single 18 - 22 watt amp. Even with a loud drummer. But that's in a small space. On the gig that's not enough...30 or 40 watts is better. Sometime you need more than that to get a loud enough and clear enough tone.

For me, twenty is plenty.


Originally Posted by drew_half_emptyi think you guys missed something. The traynor is class A, which, in terms of volume, puts it somewhere around a hot rod deville

i still say traynor though, good amps

I don't b uy that for a second!. A Deville will rip your head off!. I used to own one. Class A has a ton of cool tone features. But, not 60 watt A/B volume from a 15 watt amp! That's voodoo man!

Lew, 2 Celtic Franlins are in your stereo future, considering your love of stereo smal;l wattage rigs! bwahahaha!


Originally Posted by Scott_FLew, 2 Celtic Franlins are in your stereo future, considering your love of stereo smal;l wattage rigs! bwahahaha!
Man...I have SIX great 18 -22 watt amps already! Two tweed Deluxes, two Blackface DR's, one '62 Deluxe and one '51 Super...but you think I need two more, huh??? Actually, I'd love to try one of your quot;Franlinsquot;.

There you go Lew^^^^
BTW I love the way you described your setup. Made my mouth water. We've talked about this before too so you know how much I love stereo amp setups.

Hey, Iquot;m typing one janded!

Okay, Lew, you really only need one.

Nah...I like to have two of everything. Well... almost everything.

It depends on a lot of things but particularly the amp's voicing and how loud your band plays. I've played in a two guitar band with a 10W amp and I've struggled to be heard with a 100W amp.
Other factors includewhat kind of clean tones you prefer
genre of music
speakers
ability to mic the amp and run through the PA
. . .
In the end it boils down to the amp and the band.