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Thanks for all of your input when I was selecting pups for my maple parker nitefly- I was looking primarily for a gilmore/knophler sound with lots of other sounds and it looks like we got 2 out of 3 dead on- The JB in the bridge handles humb duty well and splits extremely well with the Dmzo cruiser- The cruiser turned out to be the suprise pup- I'd heard lots of great things about the JB, but the crusier turned out to be the perfect middle poistion pup for everythign I do-

The only pup that's not perfect is the cool rail, and even it works well under certain conditions- It turns out that most of the time I have been running 3coils on due to my coil roll off pot, and in this position, it provides a good quack in 4 and and relatively undifined phasey, but very usable sound.

However, thanks to Artie, I recognised that I wasn't getting all of the 'traditional' settings due to my coil roll offs and I put in a in push pull yesterday and found out (at least in my parker) that the cool rails is actually very agressive- It's louder than the JB, and even dropped as low as possible overdrives much earlier than the crusier or the JB- From specs I wouldn't have expected this much power and wonder if anyone else has had similar experience?

I'm a bit torn on where to go here because I really like dual rails for the roll off that I use about 80% of the time, but the vintage and Dbuster aren't true dual rails (and weren't offered as 4 conducters when I made did my mod)- I may just keep it, since it does sound good in the '3 coil on' mode- But haven't given up-

Anyone have any ideas on what I might try? Obviously could go for another cruiser, but couldn't trade it in- Would rather go with SD, but there really aren't a lot of options for this sound with dual rails and roll of are there?

How about a second cruiser? Leave them soldered where they are and just flip them around to see if you like the cruiser by itself.

I think that the Cool Rails is like a true HB in rails form. Probably would go really well in bridge.

JM- You convinced me- It's a 30 minute swap and would be really dumb not to try it- Will let you know what I find out-

yeah, the duck and VR came wired internally in parallel .. they are 4 wire now so you can wire them up internally for series to get a little more juice outta them ...dunno how they sound when they are wired for series (my duck is parallel)

let us know what you come up with

cheers,
t4d

thanks tone-
now that the 4 condutors are out there, had considered trying them, but not thinking i would get the coil roll of sound that i love so much- If I'm understanding correctly they are split like a Pbass pup and all I could do would be to roll off trebble or bass side as opposed to thining the sound- Am I getting this right?

Here's a radical idea- I've never played wiht magnets at all, but would it be possible to replace the ceramic mag with a less powerful mag? Or is it the winds that are making the cool rail so hot? Considering I want less brite would alnico 2 be possible? Wouldnt have a clue where to get a magnet or how to do this-

Probably the winds making the cool rail so hot, take off that ceramic magnet and you'll get mud city.

Could also put the cool rails in parallel. Should be similar to a Vintage Rails (But not exactly, since on the VR 1/2 of each bar is not conductive.)

Let me offer this little 2-cents-worth:

Don't let the idea of quot;traditionalquot; get in the way of your tone. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. If the 3-in-parallel connection worked - do it.

The Cool Rails was my first quot;littlequot; humbucker. Its here to stay. And, I think I'm going to restore the 2-in-parallel wiring that I had. Its a really cool sound. You and me may be the only ones who get to enjoy it. (Besides our audience.)

Right on Artie- Don't get me wrong, I spend 80% of my time in the 3 coil paralel spin split and can't imagine living without it- It's set up as the default 'pot down' setting on the push pull- So I'm already very happy with what I have-

It's just the fact that there are 2 new positions that is boarderline useless for me, ie traditional wiring in 4 and 5 and I guess I'm just imagining that I could have even more fleibility than I was orginally planning on- Although I've never used the sound before, I just think about the potential

But sounds like you have confirmed that magnet change would not be logical, so I'm going to try the CR/Crusier swap first to see how I like the cruiser in the neck and consider the paralel idea next- But considering everything else I have in this mod, can't imagine that I can get this pup paralel to itself and get the roll off as well-

I really just need to be happy with what I have
M


Originally Posted by zionstratRight on Artie- Don't get me wrong, I spend 80% of my time in the 3 coil paralel spin split and can't imagine living without it . . .

Cool. For some reason, I was thinking that you undid that. It is a cool sound.

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