i guess the thread on which gear gets the most out of you inspired this one. What gear is most unforving/forgiving towards mistakes?
Teles ive noticed have always been pretty harsh on my playing...
Strats are pretty transparent. If you suck, a Strat will call you out everytime
That said, I think they're much more flexible, in regards to the tones you can squeeze from them.
Strats absolutely ,and that goes for fender amps too,the most forgiving would be mesa boogie amps and gibson
Forgiving - Well strats are pretty sturdy. I've dropped some of my guitars (unintentionally) and they all still work...
I'd call dropping a guitar a mistake
Shredder axes and gibsons are the most forgiving guitars I've come across. Whenever I play a nice gibson, I'm amazed at how fluent my playing becomes.
As for unforgiving, two words:
Fender Telecaster. Not for the weak of resolve.
As for amps, it seems the higher gain you go, the less you have to work. Of course the tradeoff is lack of articulation...
What Mistakes!!!!?? I'd say Shredder axe? super strat through some high gain for covering up..
I only ever played a Tele once and I didnt seem to sound good at all ..
2nd Hot Grits on Gibsons and Shredder Axes..
Originally Posted by JB_From_HellStrats are pretty transparent. If you suck, a Strat will call you out everytime
That said, I think they're much more flexible, in regards to the tones you can squeeze from them.
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Cover up mistakes: Les paul, neck pickup, rectifier with everything dimed
Tele's tend to be pretty unforgiving, and even Strats to a point. VHT amps and Fender amps will also tell on you...HiWatts too...high gain Marshalls, Mesa, these things tend to cover up sloppy playing...espically when used with Buckers
i agree with Christian completely. single coils and clean amps tell on you, but buckers and high gain hide all kinds of screwups
my other guitarrist is pretty darn good, and now that we've been working the classic jazz chops and runs he's gotten alot better, but i let him throw a few licks down on my strat and we all had a good laugh.
I tried his epiphone and ripped thanks my experiences with my strat always calling out my mistakes. I wouldnt have it any other way though, nothing tops playing great on a good strat.
I voted Shredder superstrat/Highgain. Definitely the easiest to sound good on.
I've always though that the reason the most skilled players always gravitate toward the strat is because they're the best guitars at laying your soul out on your sleeve. They leave nothing to hide, and show the biggest difference between different nuances of player's style. It's no coincidence that Hendrix, Beck, Yngwie, Clapton, and SRV gravitated toward that instrument.
Single coils and clean amps will show flaws. Tele and Strats were made for players who want everything to shine through. I agree with GJ, there's no wonder why there are so many memorable guitar legends that have used them. I think they're a lot more fun to play, but that's just me.
I decide stuff like this on a peice-by-peice basis. I find that to my hands Gibsons with thick necks and some PRS guitars have very little margin for error, and old-style, loud tube amps like Bassmans and Plexis are BRUTALLY honest.
I LOVE Strats so while I lot of players say their a little tough to work with I'm completely used to it plus I know all the little idiosyncracies of that model. So as a result it ain't a problem.
I hate tube amps that have a real stiff, honky feel. The quot;pushedquot; mode on channel 1 of my Rectoverb is like this so I don't use it but the Vintage mode on the gain channel is SWEEEET. All liquidy and smooth, thats what I like!
i find that my 5150 highlights my playing, its not very forgiving of messy playing, but thats only good since it drives me to be a better player
I don't get why people say that high gain is more forgiving...it brings out more mistakes for me. It makes it alot harder to keep the other strings silent, and to make quick runs and sweeps sound clear and articulate. That's enough of a challenge for me.
I think it has more to do with the amp than guitar, pickups too. Hi-gain stuff is always easier to hide behind, I think 6L6 is also kinder than EL34.
I'm going to go with a hollow, or semi-hollow plugged into anything for least forgiving. You have to keep the strings quiet, you have to dig in to get it to sing. Everything most guys love about strats I love about hollow bodies. Most forgiving is anything with not clear high gain.
As far as amps go, the better the amp, the more it's going to tell on you. I went from playing my fender bullet in my dorm room, to a twin reverb on the weekend, all I could ever think was, quot;wow, I suckquot; then to the Z which sent me back to the woodshed for sure, inspiring, yet at the same time disappointing due to lack of chops.
Luke
Originally Posted by TattooedCarrotI think it has more to do with the amp than guitar, pickups too. Hi-gain stuff is always easier to hide behind, I think 6L6 is also kinder than EL34.
Again, I find the opposote to be true for me, personally.Originally Posted by DeadSkinSlayer3I don't get why people say that high gain is more forgiving...it brings out more mistakes for me. It makes it alot harder to keep the other strings silent, and to make quick runs and sweeps sound clear and articulate. That's enough of a challenge for me.
I agree, screwing up with a high or even medium-gain riff sounds a lot worse because the distortion amplifies all the mistakes, bad intonation, etc. I'm a huge stickler for being in tune and STAYING there because of that.
- Dec 10 Fri 2010 21:02
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