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I was wondering what kind of chord (non-power chords) is very often used in rock and hard rock and why.... so... tell me
thanks

Barre Chord

Arghghg This wasn't what I meant...


Originally Posted by seafoamerBarre Chordlol

-Mike

ok well... so... let's go back to the real topic...

Theres these ones called... hmm.. let's se.. uhh.. INVERTED power chords (aka perfect 4ths) are used alot by richie blackmore, theres some other quot;shapesquot; used commonly on the D-G strings but I don't know there names, hope this helps a bit.

I actually wasn't joking. A power chord is Root-5. A Barre chord is Root-5-root-3-5-1.
They are different thingamabobas.


Originally Posted by seafoamerI actually wasn't joking. A power chord is Root-5. A Barre chord is Root-5-root-3-5-1.
They are different thingamabobas.

a barre chord is the name for an open chord thats shifted up the neck, to change what chord it is (in terms of note name, eg Am to Cm). you can play many types of chords as barres, eg. maj7, min7, dom7, maj, min


Originally Posted by shredaholica barre chord is the name for an open chord thats shifted up the neck, to change what chord it is (in terms of note name, eg Am to Cm). you can play many types of chords as barres, eg. maj7, min7, dom7, maj, min

True dat, baby pops! I was just trying to show the difference between a power chord and a (type of) barre chord.

I know the difference but knowing that they play barre chords alot is no special help buddy


Originally Posted by KommerzbassistI know the difference but knowing that they play barre chords alot is no special help buddy

Of course it's not the quot;specialquot; help. If I went around givin' ppl the quot;specialquot; help all the time, what the hell would my edge be then???


Originally Posted by seafoamerOf course it's not the quot;specialquot; help. If I went around givin' ppl the quot;specialquot; help all the time, what the hell would my edge be then???

It's no good foamy cause the majority of guitarists don't know how to build chords or scales. They just learn the shapes. When I teach someone guitar I don't even give them chord shapes or scale patterns. I teach them intervals. And what intervals are the building blocks of scales and chords. From there they can build them themselves. I find if people learn boxes first it severely limits them.


Originally Posted by seafoamerOf course it's not the quot;specialquot; help. If I went around givin' ppl the quot;specialquot; help all the time, what the hell would my edge be then???
you're always so... yourself


Originally Posted by XeromusIt's no good foamy cause the majority of guitarists don't know how to build chords or scales. They just learn the shapes. When I teach someone guitar I don't even give them chord shapes or scale patterns. I teach them intervals. And what intervals are the building blocks of scales and chords. From there they can build them themselves. I find if people learn boxes first it severely limits them.Could you explain that further please?


Originally Posted by KommerzbassistCould you explain that further please?

I don't mean it to sound condescending.

Say someone knows the intervals of a major scale, w-w-h-w-w-w-h. w=whole step h= half step. Given they have basic knowledge of the notes on the fretboard they can then play a major scale anywhere on the neck starting from any note. If I tell them that each mode starts on a different scale degree of the major scale they can then play any mode starting on any note on the fretboard. Phrygian for example starts on the 3rd scale degree of major. h-w-w-w-h-w-w. Those are the intervals.

For chords: They can be looked at as scale degrees stacked upon one another. Your normal power chords are simply root and fifth, or root, root doubled, and fifth. Say if a student understands how to create a diminished chord. Two minor thirds stacked upon one another. A minor third is a major third reduced by a half step. With some thinking they can contruct that chord on the fretboard on their own.

This is how you come up with cool voices and such that you would never otherwise understand how to construct.

in rock its mostly major, minor, seventh or a combo of them. because rock guitarists choose to be basic a lot of the time with chords.


Originally Posted by XeromusI don't mean it to sound condescending.

Say someone knows the intervals of a major scale, w-w-h-w-w-w-h. w=whole step h= half step. Given they have basic knowledge of the notes on the fretboard they can then play a major scale anywhere on the neck starting from any note. If I tell them that each mode starts on a different scale degree of the major scale they can then play any mode starting on any note on the fretboard. Phrygian for example starts on the 3rd scale degree of major. h-w-w-w-h-w-w. Those are the intervals.

For chords: They can be looked at as scale degrees stacked upon one another. Your normal power chords are simply root and fifth, or root, root doubled, and fifth. Say if a student understands how to create a diminished chord. Two minor thirds stacked upon one another. A minor third is a major third reduced by a half step. With some thinking they can contruct that chord on the fretboard on their own.

This is how you come up with cool voices and such that you would never otherwise understand how to construct.

Sorry, but I didn't get the thing with the intervals... I think... could you explain as simple as it gets for a dumb ass like me please?


Originally Posted by KommerzbassistSorry, but I didn't get the thing with the intervals... I think... could you explain as simple as it gets for a dumb ass like me please?
haha, love the sig!!

Intervals are the same as the meaning of the word,there the actual difference between notes on the fretboard or piano..e.g like Xero said the intervals of the major scale would be... w-w-h-w-w-w-h ... so say were in the Key of C.the notes in the scale of Cmajor would be C D E F G A B.So..the difference between C to D is a Whole Tone/whole step (same thing) as if it were a Half Tone then the notes would actually be C to C#,as C to C# is only a half tone.thats basically the deal with Intervals, so then D to E is A Whole Tone, E to F is A Half Tone (since theres no such thing as E# or Fb) etc etc. so on and so forth..

Hope that helps!

i really dont know that much about intervals and theory, but i can 'ear construct' modes using the major and minor scale flavors on almost any key.

i see the problem here!!!
its in the aim - rock chord, not power chord..... nope

im not wanting to sound like i dont like rock, i love rock. id like to BE rock oneday.

BUT

most of rock IS just powed chords!
you want a new chord, i gues thats cos ur bored of just doing powed chords all the time. well i say if thats the case ur probably bored of most rock.

sorry!

if u want new chords, new sounds, try diferent styles of music, its the only way.

if you want new odd sounds i surgest learning some jazz chords.
dont be put off by the name, just cos these chords lend themselfs to jazz dosent mean they cant sound like heavy rock in the right place.

untill you learn to apreciate new genres (as that involves downloading or borrowing cds etc) just try putting ur fingers in random places on the fretboard. if it sounds bad, find which note sounds the worst and move it up or down a fret or 2 until it sounds nice. that way you can invent a million chords.