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How would that sound? I know that it would smooth out the tone a little, but what else? How would it compare to an A2P humbucker (is it true that an A2 Jazz sounds a lot like the A2P?)

No one?

The A2Pro and the Jazz use the same coils...so an A2 Jazz would be an Alnico II Pro, as for an A2 59...I hear good things but I have not tried one yet...

It sounds fantastic. It's one of my favorite sounds for a LP's neck slot.


Originally Posted by the guy who invented fireThe A2Pro and the Jazz use the same coils...so an A2 Jazz would be an Alnico II Pro,That's what I thought. I'm thinking I need to get an A2 magnet for my Jazz, rather than swap it out for an A2P. As far as the 59, perhaps I should try that magnet swap as well. Could be cool.


Originally Posted by the guy who invented fireThe A2Pro and the Jazz use the same coils...so an A2 Jazz would be an Alnico II Pro, as for an A2 59...I hear good things but I have not tried one yet...

Really? I'm plan on making a hybrid from a C5 amp; AII Pro. I'll use the old Jazz I have if it's the same as the AII Pro, except for the mag.

Did you hear this from someone at Duncan or some one else in the know? I've heard JB's and DD's use the same coils also.


Originally Posted by Benjy_26It sounds fantastic. It's one of my favorite sounds for a LP's neck slot.
Does anyone know how it sounds in the bridge? A bridge 59 with an alnico II magnet in the bridge?

How would an A2 59 be in the bridge? same mid scooped EQ?


Originally Posted by OlinMusicHow would an A2 59 be in the bridge? same mid scooped EQ?I did an A2 59 bridge in a buddys guitar a while back...that guitar did the best EVH i'd ever heard from a quot;cheepquot; pickup...he had gone through several pickup's looking for quot;the onequot; he settle on the A2 59 and I have to say, it was a great sounding pickup.

An A2 59 sounds kinda like a Custom Custom with the mids squashed down. The mid peak is still there, just not nearly as prominant. Does a very good EVH impression.

i am not sure if i remembered correctly but maybe stevo did a few clips with a a2 59b. try searching the tips and clips section.

wrong. its kevlar3000 and rid.


Originally Posted by Fritz6Really? I'm plan on making a hybrid from a C5 amp; AII Pro. I'll use the old Jazz I have if it's the same as the AII Pro, except for the mag.

Did you hear this from someone at Duncan or some one else in the know? I've heard JB's and DD's use the same coils also.

AFAIK, this is a SDUG rumor. It has never been proven to be true. The only series that it confirmed to be the same coils is the Custom series. That doesn't mean that it is untrue, just unconfirmed.


Originally Posted by the guy who invented fireThe A2Pro and the Jazz use the same coils...

That just can't be. I put an Alnico 5 in a an A2Pro once and it didn't sound ANYTHING like a Jazz. It had even more lows and low mids with the A5 in it than before, whereas the Jazz has less low/low mid than a stock A2 Pro.


Originally Posted by the guy who invented fireThe A2Pro and the Jazz use the same coils...so an A2 Jazz would be an Alnico II Pro, as for an A2 59...I hear good things but I have not tried one yet...

Remember I tryed this combination in my Love Rock's bridge position and I went back to the A2 59/Custom Hybrid which I feel is alot better than the 59B period!


Originally Posted by ZhangliqunThat just can't be. I put an Alnico 5 in a an A2Pro once and it didn't sound ANYTHING like a Jazz. It had even more lows and low mids with the A5 in it than before, whereas the Jazz has less low/low mid than a stock A2 Pro.

We've had this discussion on this forum many times, and I agree with Zhang. I'm not sure, so I'll hedge my bets a little and say that it is a rumor.

BTW Zhang, look for a PM from me today. Sorry I've taken so long


Originally Posted by gripweedWe've had this discussion on this forum many times, and I agree with Zhang. I'm not sure, so I'll hedge my bets a little and say that it is a rumor.

BTW Zhang, look for a PM from me today. Sorry I've taken so long

Not to worry, I'm about halfway through Rewind Gig #2 tonight anyway. Just want to know to be able to schedule things around these rewinds.

I think folks who say things like the Jazz and A2Pro are the same wind assume this because the two pickups have the same DC resistance or are very close.

The wind pattern will make all the difference in the world in the tone. Seymour (or even I) could wind you 10 humbuckers with the same magnet, same DC resistance and the same match (or mismatch) on the coils but we could make them all sound very different from each other by winding each with a different pattern (varying degrees of scatter vs. neat), different looseness or tightness, etc.


Originally Posted by gripweedAFAIK, this is a SDUG rumor. It has never been proven to be true. The only series that it confirmed to be the same coils is the Custom series. That doesn't mean that it is untrue, just unconfirmed.
Really? What about the JB and the Distortion? Another user group myth?


Originally Posted by theboatcandreamReally? What about the JB and the Distortion? Another user group myth?

I can't speak to the Customs or the JB/Distortion deal, but I do know the Jazz and A2 Pro are different from direct experience.

Although I do suspect that the CC is wound a little darker than the C5, the different magnets notwithstanding, plus the DC resistance is slightly different from the other two.


Originally Posted by gripweedAFAIK, this is a SDUG rumor. It has never been proven to be true. The only series that it confirmed to be the same coils is the Custom series. That doesn't mean that it is untrue, just unconfirmed.

Invader / Distortion / JB = Same coil, different magnet. Standard A5 = JB / Oversize Ceramic = DD / Oversize Cerammic w 2 additionaml ceramics Flanking the poles = Invader

This quot;rumorquot; actually didn´t start on the forum but is information given to us (or rather a member) directly from a Duncan Employee, IIRC Jessica the A R Rep...

Some have taken theirs apart to see AFAIK, and the coil specs matched up 1:1 from what I remember, particularly guage, insulation and dc-res.

I don´t think it gets any more confirmed than that. Nor do I think that it could really be classified a rumor