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Has anyone seen or have played this amp head? It seems like it would be insane seeing that Fender is the quot;kingquot; of good amps.

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This thing has ****ing 550 watts!

550W solidstate wats.. i wouldnt buy it

why not?


Originally Posted by GuitarGuru88why not?

solid state.. i dont care how loud it is, i want tubes! no solid state amp got even close to simulating tubes, so why go for it?

so what if it has 550W? it's tone is probably sterile and lifeless anyway. not my cup of tea

Yeah, good point....! A Krank or a Mesa word be more of my cup of tea!


Originally Posted by GuitarGuru88Yeah, good point....! A Krank or a Mesa word be more of my cup of tea!

now we're talkin

and godknows how much that fender costs anyway.. for that money you could prolly get a kickass mesa used

I wish that Mesa and Krank's weren't 1500 dollars! I know that your paying for American Made and quality but still...same with Marshalls, but they are mostly just name.


Originally Posted by Daveysolid state.. i dont care how loud it is, i want tubes! no solid state amp got even close to simulating tubes, so why go for it?

so what if it has 550W? it's tone is probably sterile and lifeless anyway. not my cup of tea

Another tube amp snob! LOL....You obviously haven't been doing any homework with regards to quot;somequot; of the newest SS stuff....Just ranting about how SS sucks,is totally coming from out of context! I have quite a few tube amps,and you are very entitled to your opinions,but don't just bash something,especially when you really don't have any knowledge base to back this up....

The tube amp mentality starts to get pretty boring these days....LOL No one has told me that the tones I've been getting through my Fender Cyber Twin that I've owned since 2001 or my new Vox Valvetronix head through a V30 4x12 cab sounds like a$$?......This is coming from a guy that has been using tube amps for over 30 years.....Sorry brother,but I needed to say this...You'll get pissed,but you'll get over it also!


Originally Posted by GuitarGuru88I wish that Mesa and Krank's weren't 1500 dollars! I know that your paying for American Made and quality but still...same with Marshalls, but they are mostly just name.

there are cheaper ones on ebay (will get right to ya john.. just reading your post)


Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97Another tube amp snob! LOL....You obviously haven't been doing any homework with regards to quot;somequot; of the newest SS stuff....Just ranting about how SS sucks,is totally coming from out of context! I have quite a few tube amps,and you are very entitled to your opinions,but don't just bash something,especially when you really don't have any knowledge base to back this up....

well, not a tube amp snob.. i have yet to own one, but all the ones i can get my hands on (SS amps) suck.. why waste my money on something that might not work for me when i can get a nice older tube amp?

The tube amp mentality starts to get pretty boring these days....LOL No one has told me that the tones I've been getting through my Fender Cyber Twin that I've owned since 2001 or my new Vox Valvetronix head through a V30 4x12 cab sounds like a$$?......This is coming from a guy that has been using tube amps for over 30 years.....Sorry brother,but I needed to say this...You'll get pissed,but you'll get over it also!

no worries... i know that these new modeling amps kick ass. i had the line6 gutiar port (not an amp, but i got kickass tones out of it anyway)

the thing is. i wont dish out 1500$ for a head that isnt even a modeling amp, when i can get a very nice tube combo (all i can afford and can have ATM..if i get a halfstack i get thrown out of the house)

i REALLY get what you're refering to, it's just me right now, who really DOESNT want to have another SSamp. no matter if it's a good one or not. i want to go all tube with my next one


Originally Posted by Daveywell, not a tube amp snob.. i have yet to own one, but all the ones i can get my hands on (SS amps) suck.. why waste my money on something that might not work for me when i can get a nice older tube amp?no worries... i know that these new modeling amps kick ass. i had the line6 gutiar port (not an amp, but i got kickass tones out of it anyway)

the thing is. i wont dish out 1500$ for a head that isnt even a modeling amp, when i can get a very nice tube combo (all i can afford and can have ATM..if i get a halfstack i get thrown out of the house)

i REALLY get what you're refering to, it's just me right now, who really DOESNT want to have another SSamp. no matter if it's a good one or not. i want to go all tube with my next one

As I said brother,you are more than entitled to your opinions....This $600 Valvetronix head I've used on 2 gigs and I gotta tell ya,it's a great sounding amp...A tube amp is always going to cost you more money,but it isn't going to necessarily make you sound better?

An old vintage fender is going to set you back well over 1.5k also,but nothing wrong with wanting a tube amp either..

As far as I'm concerned by today's standards on gear....It's getting pretty hard to just say SS amps quot;suckquot;....There was a time not that long ago where I wouldn't even plug into anything that lacked tubes,but the SS stuff is getting scaringly close...I know cause I Own 2 SS style amps already....

It's all good buddy and I didn't want to create any hard feelings or tension between us! I have my own opinions on lots of things also...


Originally Posted by GuitarGuru88Yeah, good point....! A Krank or a Mesa word be more of my cup of tea!

No, it's not a good point as John pointed out. As with anything you really need to try one out yourself to see if it would be right for you. There are a lot of good sounding SS amps lately. Even quot;tube snobsquot; agree that many SS amps can sound good at lower levels. And with 550 watts to play with I'd imagine those quot;lower levelsquot; of what sounds good are vastly increased.

I haven't actually tried one but it seems to me that it's a direct competitor to Marshall's Mode 4. Seems to target the same audience and feature similar technology. And as they seem to target the new metal scene mostly, some agree that SS can provide a tighter and more compressed metal sound than tubes typically deliver. Try one out, it may be your cup of tea.

I've owned some really bad solid state amps in the past, also had one that I liked quite a bit, But nothing stops me from wanting this new Fender Metalhead.
Maybe it has something to do with me playing Fenders, and also being a metalhead, but I seriously want one, prolly won't ever be able to aford it, but oh well, still want one.
Rock On!

The guys at Sam Ash told me yesterday that most of the folks buying amps quot;latelyquot; are the younger crowd....High Schoolers and folks in their 20s....The Mode 4 and the Metal Master are geared towards those buyers...

Sam Ash also had 0 Boutique amps,but they also had plenty of smaller combo and beginner amps? You have to stock what you can sell....

I think 550 watts it total overkill,but the younger guys might like that?

I can't comment on either of these 2 amps,simply because I've not plugged into one or have heard anyone playing through them?

They look cool though....


Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97As I said brother,you are more than entitled to your opinions....This $600 Valvetronix head I've used on 2 gigs and I gotta tell ya,it's a great sounding amp...A tube amp is always going to cost you more money,but it isn't going to necessarily make you sound better?

it's a sad thing really.. the VOX that you got (120W head right?) costs 1100$
over here.. i was all over it when i tried it, but the price stomped me.. and you cant get these ones used anywhere here

An old vintage fender is going to set you back well over 1.5k also,but nothing wrong with wanting a tube amp either..
i was looking more in the lines of a 50W JCM800 combo

As far as I'm concerned by today's standards on gear....It's getting pretty hard to just say SS amps quot;suckquot;....There was a time not that long ago where I wouldn't even plug into anything that lacked tubes,but the SS stuff is getting scaringly close...I know cause I Own 2 SS style amps already....

ok..so i was a bit out of line .. =P thing is, i got no use for it. (i wonder what the price is though) i'm fed up with SS amps, no matter how good they are. i want a tube one.i see the use of these new generations of amps and how they're great and all, but i'm stubborn LOL

It's all good buddy and I didn't want to create any hard feelings or tension between us! I have my own opinions on lots of things also...

like i said, no worries =)


Originally Posted by Daveyit's a sad thing really.. the VOX that you got (120W head right?) costs 1100$
over here.. i was all over it when i tried it, but the price stomped me.. and you cant get these ones used anywhere here
i was looking more in the lines of a 50W JCM800 combook..so i was a bit out of line .. =P thing is, i got no use for it. (i wonder what the price is though) i'm fed up with SS amps, no matter how good they are. i want a tube one.i see the use of these new generations of amps and how they're great and all, but i'm stubborn LOLlike i said, no worries =)

Where are you located? Us United States guys take these things for granted.....The JCM 800 is a great choice...


Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97Where are you located? Us United States guys take these things for granted.....The JCM 800 is a great choice...

central europe. slovenia .. small country where everybody wants to rip you off.

i know that you stateside guys take a lot of things we cant even get here for granted, but that's how it is =(
lots of things are WAY overpriced, but that's what you get after shipping, customs and the stores profit .. almost twice the price

and dont get me started on how hard it is to get some duncans over here..

maybe that james root character will start playing them??


Originally Posted by Daveycentral europe. slovenia .. small country where everybody wants to rip you off.

i know that you stateside guys take a lot of things we cant even get here for granted, but that's how it is =(
lots of things are WAY overpriced, but that's what you get after shipping, customs and the stores profit .. almost twice the price

and dont get me started on how hard it is to get some duncans over here..

Oh that sucks! Too bad you can't just move out of there? Move to the states brother!


Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97Oh that sucks! Too bad you can't just move out of there? Move to the states brother!

hehe.. if i do, it's gonna be santa barbara

i will move away from here eventually, but i gotta get enough $$ together

ok, enough with the hijacking, discuss it guys, i've posted enough in here =)