I've realized that most people discussing tone here are coming from the perspective of Lead/Solo playing (with the possible exception of the Hendrix clean rhythm/fill/lead thing) Is this true? When I think of tones I want to emulate, it always seems they are rhythm guitar tones, not lead tones. I mean across the borad too, from metal to heavy and alt rock to blues, etc. Am I the only one like this? Like when I think of Page, I think of rhythm/riff tone, not the tone on the solo to stairway.
To me they are the same sound, just more or less dirt.
Originally Posted by RidTo me they are the same sound, just more or less dirt.
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To me, there is a strong distinction between the two. However, when people ask about tone in general without any notion towards either of the two, I think you have to take the middle road and assume a general sound that applies to both.
That's what I love about my 5150... settings for a killer rhythm tone also sound amazing for lead .Basically, I always see them as the same sound. Same amount of gain, too.
I guess I've been listening to a lot of EVH lately and it seems I don't really like his older rhythm sound. His lead sound is great, and I love certain aspects of his rhythm, like how it sounds nearly uncontrolable and ready to explode at any second, but it has this upper mid/treble grainyness that I don't particularly care for.
Looks like I was incorrect then. lol
rhythm tones can vary a lot for me. leas is more or less the same kind of sound...but rhytms can go from chimy chords, to Holdsworth-style pads, to stuff that is a lot more crunchy. It is *all* imoportant, which is prolly why I have the setup i do.
lead tone = rhythm tone delay/reverb wah
I'm into jangly cleans, crunchy rhythm overdrive and smooth leads.
Originally Posted by JB_From_Helllead tone = rhythm tone delay
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For rhythm I like to put mids around 5 to get a tight sound and presence also around 5. For lead I leave it around like 7 or higher for mids and higher presence. I use these settings most of the time just if I want to specifically have those sounds, but I usually just leave my settings on my lead settings for everything.
When I think 'tone' I think of lead tones... I guess it's just more important to me.
Also, I find that crappy rhythm tone doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as bad lead tone. A song can be great with bad rhythm tone, but if the lead tone is really bad, it can spoil the solo for me.
I play both kinds of playing styles with the same tone, CRUNCH
Depending on the style of music, my lead tone can be quite different than my rhythm tone.
I usually go for more gain and mids on lead, and less gain and mids on rhythm.
I play mostly lead, and to me I think about lead being tone. But yeh iI do consider rythem guitar in the equation, i like something bright for rythem and something smooth and jazzy for lead.
- May 17 Tue 2011 21:05
Tone: Rhythm or Lead?
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