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Okay, I'm almost ready to order my guitar (A few more weeks), and I'm wondering. Does a Doublecut sound the same as the singlecuts? Here's the double cut I have in mind: from : localhost/does fret access get harder on a normal LP? I tried out my friend's LP (Sitting down) and I didn't notice anything, but I'm wondering if it is because I have been told to carry my guitar stupidly low (Hetfield/Early DeLonge). Any comments/complaints about this are welcome. Comments about posture and positioning shall be...considered (I'm not being sarcastic either).

Well the Gibson LP DCs have 24 frets, thus moving the neck pickup and changing the tone. But I would assume that the DC would be lighter, and thus have some impact on tone.

The DP he#8217;s looking at has 22 frets. The Gibson DC plus has 24 frets, but the faded series still has 22. I can imagine that the 23 and 24 frets are so hard to get to that that are almost not usable. With the 24 fret there would be some difference in tone at the neck pickup. Otherwise, I don#8217;t know that the extra cutaway is going to remove enough material to really make much impact in the tone department (probably no more or no less variation than you get between different blanks of mahogany).

I#8217;d imagine that playability is equivalent to that of a standard LP. Bottom line is, if you can get access to one to play it that#8217;ll be your best bet. Play where it feels comfortable. Why are you being forced to sling the guitar so low? #8220;Coolness#8221; shouldn#8217;t compromise comfort and playbility.

Shape does have a subtle effect on tone, as well as the amount of wood. Having said that, I recall the old double cut away Ibanez guitars (otherwise LP copies) sounding very good and LP like.

I think that there is a big difference in tone going from a double cut to a single cut, as the single cut has effectively a shorter, stiffer neck. This gives better energy transfer and a fuller tone.

I notice this difference between my LP and my Hamer Special. The LP seems to have more lows and low mids while the Hamer sounds thinner and has more sparkle and high mids.


Originally Posted by Benjy_26I think that there is a big difference in tone going from a double cut to a single cut, as the single cut has effectively a shorter, stiffer neck. This gives better energy transfer and a fuller tone.

I notice this difference between my LP and my Hamer Special. The LP seems to have more lows and low mids while the Hamer sounds thinner and has more sparkle and high mids.

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Originally Posted by Benjy_26I think that there is a big difference in tone going from a double cut to a single cut, as the single cut has effectively a shorter, stiffer neck. This gives better energy transfer and a fuller tone.

I notice this difference between my LP and my Hamer Special. The LP seems to have more lows and low mids while the Hamer sounds thinner and has more sparkle and high mids.

How much of that, I wonder, can be attributed to the different construction styles and woods between the two guitar companies, not to mention no too woods are created equal?


Originally Posted by Lee_LWell the Gibson LP DCs have 24 frets, thus moving the neck pickup and changing the tone.

It changes the tone all right. Neck pickups sound horrible on 24-fret guitars.


Originally Posted by MikeSHow much of that, I wonder, can be attributed to the different construction styles and woods between the two guitar companies, not to mention no too woods are created equal?Duly noted.

The thing is, my example doesnt hold true for just my Hamer and my Lester.
As a general rule, if you play any double cut guitar and compare it to any other single cut, you'll notice that the single cut is going to be thicker sounding.

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Originally Posted by Benjy_26Duly noted.

The thing is, my example doesnt hold true for just my Hamer and my Lester.
As a general rule, if you play any double cut guitar and compare it to any other single cut, you'll notice that the single cut is going to be thicker sounding.

Fair enough. I think we would agree that regardless of what “should” happen tone-wise, it’s always best to try to play the instrument and find out for yourself.

I say nay on the double cut. Go for the classic, original, single cut LP. Double cuts just don't look right to me. I can't get used to the single cut look, plus knobs are missing and the switch is a weird location (for me). They look too much like copies of an PRS... Stick with the single cut - it will probably have better resale value too.


Originally Posted by ZhangliqunIt changes the tone all right. Neck pickups sound horrible on 24-fret guitars.Well, that's subjective. I have quite a few 24 fret short scale H/H guitars where the neck pickup sounds extremely good. I also have a couple of 22 fret short scale guitars guitars where the neck pickup sounds extremely good. It's a matter of personal taste.

As far as the decision between single cut or double cut, make up a pro/con list and decide for yourself. They both have great, but different, qualities that would lend them to certain people. I personally prefer double cuts, but would my reasons have any effect on your decision if you don't value the same things?

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Better tone flow on the single cut. Fascinating. Well, I'm raising my guitars up ever since I saw Coheed And Cambria live. They do a riff that goes like...Code:
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and I can't quite get it with my guitar that low.

Well, so far I'm leaning towards the single cut. More suggestions are welcome!

If you are having trouble playing with your guitar slung down to your knees, it's time to raise it up. You're not Hetfield or DeLonge. Raise to where you can play the higher frets comfortably.

Single Cut vs Double Cut....eh, it's a matter of preference IMO. I've played some great sounding single cuts and great sounding double cuts. What do you want, that's what matters.Originally Posted by lex666They look too much like copies of an PRS...

Lex, the LP Double Cut was out WAY before PRS started making guitars. They were known as Juniors and TV models.


Originally Posted by TravisWell, that's subjective. I have quite a few 24 fret short scale H/H guitars where the neck pickup sounds extremely good. I also have a couple of 22 fret short scale guitars guitars where the neck pickup sounds extremely good. It's a matter of personal taste.

As far as the decision between single cut or double cut, make up a pro/con list and decide for yourself. They both have great, but different, qualities that would lend them to certain people. I personally prefer double cuts, but would my reasons have any effect on your decision if you don't value the same things?

If you're looking for a killer clean, jazzish tone, you just can't get it with 24 frets. But if you're looking for just a passable quot;not-bridgequot; tone as a change of pace from the high-gain bridge thing, I'm sure they're fine.

Believe me, I would rather have 24 frets (or 26 or 28 for that matter) for the greater range, but the neck pu just doesn't sound right. The sound is the congested quot;guh-guh-guhquot;, like hitting cardboard with the eraser end of a pencil, rather than the sweet quot;loo-loo-looquot; sound I've gotta have.


Originally Posted by ZhangliqunIf you're looking for a killer clean, jazzish tone, you just can't get it with 24 frets. But if you're looking for just a passable quot;not-bridgequot; tone as a change of pace from the high-gain bridge thing, I'm sure they're fine.

Believe me, I would rather have 24 frets (or 26 or 28 for that matter) for the greater range, but the neck pu just doesn't sound right. The sound is the congested quot;guh-guh-guhquot;, like hitting cardboard with the eraser end of a pencil, rather than the sweet quot;loo-loo-looquot; sound I've gotta have.

I had the same problem with my all maple Carvin. One day, ona whim, I put an 8.4k PGb in the neck and it solved all of those problems. It's now one of my favorite guitars to play clean.

I bothered looking in the original post and the Agile has 22 frets.

The closest thing to the LP DoubleCut I've played is the Schecter S1 and that guitar freaking owns, I don't care if it quot;sounds worsequot; because the neck has less connection with the body, it completely owns, such a comfortable guitar to play and sounds great in its own right.


Originally Posted by D-EJ915I don't care if it quot;sounds worsequot; because the neck has less connection with the body, it completely owns, such a comfortable guitar to play and sounds great in its own right.Not worse, just different Tone is subjective, and I think we tend to forget that too often.