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I have 2 Strats and a mixture of pups from S.Duncan amp; Fender. Somehow I am not happy with the way the 3 pups act with each other. In both cases I have the more powerful Stack pup from Seymour at the bridge but the original pups from Fender are just as loud if not louder! I have a sneaky feeling the pup is out of phase / wired in reverse. I read the FAQ here on this and I think I nailed this by revesing the green and black wires on my s.duncan - now the 'between' setting on my 5-way selector switch gives me a real chinky quacking sound - yet I am no longer sure if the Seymour pup is now weaker...

Q. Can a single pup be wired that I do not get the full power and it sounds weak on its own or is it just my imagination..?

A quot;stackquot; pickup is one of the few singles that can be wired quot;wrongquot; to produce a weaker output. I believe, that for normal output you connect it like a humbucker: green to ground, red/white together, black to out.

But there's also a quot;power-boostquot; mode. Trouble is, since I traded off my stack, I don't have that little piece of paper that show which wires you switch to get that mode. Its somewhere posted here in the forum. If you do a search for posts made by Butch Snyder, I believe you'ld find it.

Here's the thread and pic: from : localhost//forum/s...ad.php?t=28585

That shows a Tele pup, but the wiring is the same.

Hi Artie2,

thx for the info. but I think all your switch does is switch off/on one of the stacked rows - which is cool because you can then drop down from the 'humbucker mode' you mentioned (which is the max. you can get as it has both stacked rows on) - my problem is my recollection of how loud it was before I reversed green and black...

I also have a straight SSl-3 which just has white and black - so my question now covers that one too - is there a difference in loudness if the 'in amp; out' cables are simply reversed?


Originally Posted by man_in_a_blackboxthx for the info. but I think all your switch does is switch off/on one of the stacked rows

Actually, that quot;modquot;, (which is from SD, btw), is to reverse the phase of one coil relative to the other. In quot;normalquot; humbucking mode, one coil is out-of-phase to the other. With that mod, you bring it back in to phase, which makes it more powerful, while losing the noise-cancelling mode.Originally Posted by man_in_a_blackboxI also have a straight SSl-3 which just has white and black - so my question now covers that one too - is there a difference in loudness if the 'in amp; out' cables are simply reversed?

No. Since a pickup is an AC generator, absolute phase is irrelevant. Phase is only an issue relative to another coil. (That coil could be the other coil in a humbucker or stack.)

Aha! Thanks! Now I understand. The mod is interesting as I do not care too much about hum-reduction... I think I will give that a try.

Thanks again - brett

You know . . . I could kick myself. I had a stack for awhile, back when I was searching for the quot;perfectquot; middle Strat pup, and I traded it off before I thought to try that quot;modquot;. I just didn't think about it.