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Sorry Evan. I know you're a busy man, but I don't know who else might know the answer to this. Somewhere in the distant future, I have a plan to try some LiveWire Classics in my Predator, which barely has room for a single 9-volt battery, let alone two. I'm fairly certain that the D-Tar Timberline pickup gets its 18-volts from either 2 AA or 2 AAA batteries. It appears from the photo's that little switching power supply is attached to the battery pack holder.

TimberLine pickup

Would this system work for a pair of LiveWires? If quot;yesquot;, could it be purchased separately?

Thanks;
Artie

I don't follow your question? Two A class bateries are only 3volts? This place has what you may be looking for. from : localhost/ I did a crude version of their external battery pack and ran the wire out through the tremolo cover.

Snowdog

Hey Artie. Yes, the D-TAR 18v voltage multiplier would work with LiveWires. Or, you might find a 9v LiveWires model in the future. (Oh crap! Did I just say that?)

hay' ArtieToo,
The current street value..quot;Peavey Predator Strat $225 (black in perfect condition)quot;

No harm in routing this one --- Right?

Maybe you can route it or Inlist a friend with woodworking skills?

Good Luck!and Go for it the Live Wires are much better tonally then EMGS!

I wish SD would change the name to something more attractive -- something thats geared towards that HUGE EMG customer base, a name thats very attractive to that genre of players, and maybe add a few more products to the line up and Mass attack the EMG market .. ALL In the name of TONE,,, i'm so done with EMG tone insulting my presious ears! LOL! but true..


Originally Posted by idsnowdogI don't follow your question? Two A class bateries are only 3volts?

The beauty of electronics is that you can get anything from anything. Originally Posted by Evan SkoppHey Artie. Yes, the D-TAR 18v voltage multiplier would work with LiveWires. Or, you might find a 9v LiveWires model in the future. (Oh crap! Did I just say that?)

Very cool. Although, I like the idea of 18-volt LW's. quot;Headroomquot; is a good thing. Originally Posted by Buck Cannonhay' ArtieToo,
The current street value..quot;Peavey Predator Strat $225 (black in perfect condition)quot;

No harm in routing this one --- Right?

My Predator is not the quot;normalquot; one you see on eBay all the time. Its this one:Its a little quot;specialquot;. It has a pair of 59's in it now, but they aren't quite quot;rightquot; for this baby.

Artie


Originally Posted by Evan SkoppHey Artie. Yes, the D-TAR 18v voltage multiplier would work with LiveWires. Or, you might find a 9v LiveWires model in the future. (Oh crap! Did I just say that?)

Take two: Hmmm . . . are we talking about a 9-volt to 18-volt circuit built into the pup?
The proverbial voltage-doubler in a can?

I like it.

Artie

Artie, I was thinking about this exact problem a couple of weeks ago. While your solution didn't cross my mind, I thought about maybe using smaller Lithium Ion batteries. I got distracted and didn't really look into it, but as you said, you can get anything from anything. It might be another option to consider, though it's possibly the most expensive option, too.


Originally Posted by JacksonMIAArtie, I was thinking about this exact problem a couple of weeks ago. While your solution didn't cross my mind, I thought about maybe using smaller Lithium Ion batteries. I got distracted and didn't really look into it, but as you said, you can get anything from anything. It might be another option to consider, though it's possibly the most expensive option, too.

Thats a good point. I think that SD has a potential product in their midst that they haven't yet considered. No prob . . . Evan has pretty good market savvy. They'll get it.

Artie

I think the problem with Li-Ions is the capacity, you´d probably spend too much time changing batteries.... they´re usually used in circuits with minimal draw, like cameras, Led Flashlights, residual power for keeping BIOS settings saved in Computers and some Rack gear....

on the other hand, if you could get the capacity of a D-cell somehow into the size of a Li-Ion, you´d be rich pretty fast

Yes a voltage converter could give 18volts but I would think that battery life would be very short.

Snowdog


Originally Posted by idsnowdogYes a voltage converter could give 18volts but I would think that battery life would be very short.

Snowdog

It's just a charge pump and they can be made to be very efficient.

Artie, your guitar looks more like a Patriot than a Predator. I used to have a Patriot bass and the I remember the guitar and bass had the same exact body shape. Same control locations and same pickguard too.


Originally Posted by ErikHArtie, your guitar looks more like a Patriot than a Predator. I used to have a Patriot bass and the I remember the guitar and bass had the same exact body shape. Same control locations and same pickguard too.

Yup . . . you're exactly right. They are the same guitar . . . except for quot;detailsquot;. And that makes all the difference in the world.

Artie


Originally Posted by Evan Skopp

(Oh crap! Did I just say that?)

Nope, ya typed it!

I built an external battery box for my strat since I had no room. It's pretty sweet because I can have easy access to the batteries and have less weight and crap in my guitar. Here's how you build it.

Ingredients: (From radioshack)
Project wire
Package of 2 STEREO 1/4 phono panel mount jacks (The female end if you will)
Package of 9 volt battery clips
2 9 volt batteries
A project box or something that will be big enough to hold the above stuff.
A STEREO 1/4 cable as long as you want for your guitar (This is your new guitar cable)

How to do it:
Ok grab the soldering iron. Solder the black wire of one battery clip to the red of another. Solder the other red wire (that hasn't been soldered) to the ring lug on the phono jack (this will be the jack you connect to the guitar). Solder the black wire to the sleeve lug. Solder a wire from the tip lug of that phono jack to the tip lug of the other one (this will goto the amp). Solder a wire from the sleeve lug of the first jack to the sleeve lug of the second jack. Connect up the 9 volts, and mount everything in box, make sure to lable the jacks to know which is guitar (STEREO cable) and the amp (MONO will work fine). Finally, open up your guitar and plug the 2 battery clips together, so the ends are in the - ends. Plug you guitar cable in, amp cable, and play away!
By the way, a company is making a device called X-Bat that's gonna do the same thing, but I'm sure this is cheaper.

If needed, I can try to draw some diagrams up.

I had The Hot Live Wires for Strat in a guitar for quite awhile. I squeezed the batteries in there but it is tight. At one point I bought a pair of 9 volt boxes that route and press fit into the back of the guitar but I never installed them. You can get single and dual 9 volt boxes from Carvin, StewMac and other places.

If I was going to go active again, thats what I would do.