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Hi everyone,

Im new to this board and have a couple questions for you fellow TONE pursuitists....I own a Washburn WI64 Idol ND . Its a great guitar, It is a solid mahogany bodied , mahogany necked double hummed beast. Fairly thin body.All natural wood, no finish on it at all........except lemon oil.....
It has the buzz feiten and Vcc (voice contour control) This allows you to adjust the sound of the PUp's from hum to a single coil sound. Im not fully impressed with that. Im going to replace the tone pots and replace the Pickups.
I play everything from classic rock thru metal. 60's thru 00's. I want the best set of great overall sounding Pickups. This site has a couple of recommendations. I want more opinions. SD suggests jazz:neck and jb:bridge. 59:neck and jb:bridge or 59:neck and custom:bridge. Which of these, or ???? All replies appreciated.
Thanks and sorry for the long post.......ski.

I vote Custom amp; '59. Although, any of those would be cool. The Distortion set would be good, too.

custom/'59.

Jon Moore humbuckers.

I have a similiar guitar/wood/fretboard, Washburn CTS. Its came with stock Custom Custom bridge and 59 neck. It would say it does good from classic rock to metal.

Although I'm switching the neck to a FSn (just bought) geared more towards metal. Hope the FS is a good choice for me!

59 was really good clean/split/overdrive, and very good in the middle position with the CC. Not great with 50% gain. This is with my Marshall AVT50. So maybe different tube amp. The CC is great clean/split/overdrive/full gain. quot;Vintage sounding pickup with extra output.quot;

Tol


Originally Posted by skiHi everyone,

Im new to this board and have a couple questions for you fellow TONE pursuitists....I own a Washburn WI64 Idol ND . Its a great guitar, It is a solid mahogany bodied , mahogany necked double hummed beast. Fairly thin body.All natural wood, no finish on it at all........except lemon oil.....
It has the buzz feiten and Vcc (voice contour control) This allows you to adjust the sound of the PUp's from hum to a single coil sound. Im not fully impressed with that. Im going to replace the tone pots and replace the Pickups.
I play everything from classic rock thru metal. 60's thru 00's. I want the best set of great overall sounding Pickups. This site has a couple of recommendations. I want more opinions. SD suggests jazz:neck and jb:bridge. 59:neck and jb:bridge or 59:neck and custom:bridge. Which of these, or ???? All replies appreciated.
Thanks and sorry for the long post.......ski.

You think that's long? You should see some of my posts!

Ok man I'm going to post my pup breakdown for ya.

Antiquity---A pup that is hand made by Seymour or MJ that has been artificially aged. The magnet has been degaussed and the cover has been distressed along with the screws so as to appear vintage. Everything is done to make these pups as close to an original that you would buy from a collector that was out of a guitar that was played everyday and gigged with. They have complex mids and are smooth. They are available in A2 or A5 magnet varieties. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire

The 59---The 59 is the quintessential A5 PAF (patent applied for) pup. Imagine getting in a time machine and going back to 1959 and swiping a brand new A5 pup from the Gibson factory in Kalamazoo and bringing it forward to today. They have found most homes in many neck slots. It has symetrical coils and lots of quack. It has thumping bass, a scooped mid, and cutting highs. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire

The Seth Lover---This pup is as true to the original as can be. This pup is unpotted and comes standard with a gold, or nickel pup cover. It has an A2 magnet and has good quack and fair mids. For this pup imagine going back in time to 1955 and grabbing one of the very first PAF's before they debuted in the LP's. This pup is warm and creamy, but can also get bright with the tone knob on 10. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire

The Alnico 2 Pro---The warmest of the Duncan PAF line. It has symetrical coils and is a modern take on the A2 PAFs. It has round bass and smooth treble, it also has lots of mids to make the guitar really sing. It will warm up the coldest or shrillest of guitars. The most well known Alnico 2 Pro user is Slash of Velvet Revolver and GNR. Standard 4 Conductor Wire

Pearly Gates---The PG is the hottest of the Duncan PAF line. It has asymetrical (mismatched) coils and an A2 magnet. The mismatched coils give this particular pup its rude personality. It has a frequency push in the Presence/Cut knob frequency band. This is the quot;Sizzlequot; PG owner talk about. It has the most mids of the Ducan PAF line and is also the hottest. Its patron is Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. Standard 4 conductor Wire

The Jazz---The jazz is the pup that bridges the gap between Vintage and Modern pups. Its output is at or around the vintage level. Don't let the name fool you this pup is very versatile and smooth. It has an A5 magnet and is very widely used in the neck slot. It is articulate regardless of the tuning as well. This pup negociates cleans or overdrive very well. Standard 4 Conductor Wire

To be continued...

The Custom Series---The Custom Series is all on pup configuration but with different magnets. The coils are symmetrical and the pups come with Standard 4 Conductor wire

Custom---The Custom is a PAF kicked up a few notches. This pup gets its aggressive edge from its Ceramic magnet. This pup has lots of grind with good treble and midrange. It also has ample bass for palm mute playing.

Custom Custom---The Custom Custom is a midrange heavy pup that lends itself to leads and warming bright guitars. This pup gets its huge midrange from the Alnico 2 magnet. I has smooth bass and treble. Essentially it is an overwound A2 PAF.

Custom 5---The Custom 5 is a pup with an EQ very identical to The 59. It has thumping bass, scooped mids, and cutting treble. Like the 59 it is a bright pup that will liven up dark guitar, but the bass can be overwhelming in a bassy guitar, or the the treble overwhelming in a trebly guitar.

JB---The JB is in a class of its own. There is really no other pup like it. It has fair bass and lots of treble. This particular pup has a large upper mids spike that allow it to cut through the mix like no other. It can be heard on countless recording especially throughout the 80's. Lots of people like to pair it with a Jazz or 59 in the neck. In bright guitars it is usually soldered to a 250k pot just like the original Seymour made 30 years ago.

Hope that helps man! OH and BTW, welcome to the forum!

Luke

Luke Duke....can you help ME out?? (check my post) from : localhost//forum/showthread.php?t=46235

You seem to know what your talking about.

Ski, the custom/jazz or the custom/59 should be just right for what you want. The custom is a higher output so you can still do metal with it and it also has alot of PAF qualitys in it so you can play the classic rock also.


Originally Posted by Kamanda~SDYou seem to know what your talking about.

Let's not blow it out of proportion!

Luke

luke, is that a vaulted set of posts ... it should be .. then you could just link to it instead of reposting it every time someone asks this kinda question

also, i never asked, did you write that all yourself based on your own first hand (ears) experience? ... or is it alot of cut-n-paste from marketing material or other posts?

cheers
t4d


Originally Posted by tone4daysluke, is that a vaulted set of posts ... it should be .. then you could just link to it instead of reposting it every time someone asks this kinda question

also, i never asked, did you write that all yourself based on your own first hand (ears) experience? ... or is it alot of cut-n-paste from marketing material or other posts?

cheers
t4d

With the exception of the Custom it is all from me. It is not vaulted, probably b/c Evan doesn't want some yokel's definitions to give a wrong impression.

Luke

Thanks for all of the good info,,,,,I think im gonna get the '59 for the neck and put in the sh-5 custom down unda....Should take care of all my probs.....Thank you all that commented and ....Ill give a review on that combo......Goin on vacation now see ya all in a week.......Thanks again ski

JB and Jazz

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