I know theres a ton of micing techniques, just want to know what you guys do for micing.
I don't mic often, but when I do- 3 or 4 inches back off axis of the center of the cone works well for me. sm57 being the mic.
I've noticed at gigs that the SM57 sounds better an inch or two away from the grille cloth, not right up on it.
I don't have a whole lot more experience than that. I'm gonna be recording a CD with a drummer later this year and we plan to use the traditional method of a dynamic mic close up and a condenser mic a few feet back.
But until now, because I live in a multi-unit building, I'm using direct recording devices like Sansamps, Formula recording preamps, the DG-1000, etc.
i just did a few runs on my stratgt;blonde bandmastergt;SM 57 and MXR large condenser micgt;Presonus preampgt;minidisc player
I only have one mic stand so i hung the mic in front of the speaker and i placed the MXR large condenser 3 feet away. I ran both into the presonus and set the levels equal and the recordings came out pretty decent with my eating crap on my strat. it came out Like a precise amp recording, plus some reverb from the room.
If I'm recording guitar parts for a song that will have multiple guitarists parts (each with different guitar tones), then I generally use a AKG 414 Condensor mic or an AKG 535 Condensor mic along with a Shure SM57 (the high end of the 57 helps it cut through the mix).
If I'm recording for myself (and am thinking of sticking to 1 general guitar tone for the song) then I'll use either the AKG 414 and/or AKG 535 but use a Sennheiser 421 instead of a SM57. I find that the Sennheiser 421 doesn't have the high end that the SM57 does, and it seems to fill out the sound nicely.
Craig
I don't mic a lot except for sax, vocals and acoustic guitar. For sax, I put the mic (C1000S) about 2-3 inches from the bell and try to keep it there. For vocals, I put a pop screen in between the singer and the mic (KSM 32) so there's about 7-8 inches from the vocalist's mouth. On acoustic, the mic (either one works for me) is about 5-6 inches from the soundhole and another mic a little further out on the side to catch a little ambience.
I only have a Tascam US-122 mixer and a Shure SM57, so my setup is very basic. I place the mic pretty much right up against the Blue Dog speaker (maybe an inch, inch and a half away) in my Fargen towards the outer edge (away from the other speaker). I keep it height wise center of the cabinet.
Originally Posted by BrowIf I'm recording guitar parts for a song that will have multiple guitarists parts (each with different guitar tones), then I generally use a AKG 414 Condensor mic or an AKG 535 Condensor mic along with a Shure SM57 (the high end of the 57 helps it cut through the mix).
If I'm recording for myself (and am thinking of sticking to 1 general guitar tone for the song) then I'll use either the AKG 414 and/or AKG 535 but use a Sennheiser 421 instead of a SM57. I find that the Sennheiser 421 doesn't have the high end that the SM57 does, and it seems to fill out the sound nicely.
Craig
The high end is pretty easy to notch out
i put mine between 2-3 inches from the cone, about halfway between the cone and the rim.. this usually translates to about an inch away from the grill cloth..
mic-wise, an SM57 or two , depends how much time i have
tom
Originally Posted by Death's AcreThe high end is pretty easy to notch out
Yeah, but I also find it a little too thin sounding at times, so that's why I tend to use it in conjunction with other mics inorder to help cut through the mix.
Craig
For guitar, I now just use one mic pretty close on the cab; usually an SM57 or a Blue Baby Bottle ...
So what about for gigs? I've had to lower my volume.....exponentially and am now being ran through the PA. It's all for the lowering the sound floor quest, and my 18 watts just murders.Luke
P.S. bet you never thought you'd hear that.
quot;the best EQ is mic placementquot;. Written on the mic closet in the studio I use.
It depends on the application, where to place mics.
You know, I've always had trouble getting a good hi-gain sound for recording. I usually use an SM57 with a PreSonus channel strip and I can never get that full, warm in-your-face sound. I always get a narrow grainy trebly sound with woofy bass. The sound is more distortion than actual note, if that makes sense. I do need to experiment some more, though.
Originally Posted by BrowYeah, but I also find it a little too thin sounding at times, so that's why I tend to use it in conjunction with other mics inorder to help cut through the mix.
Craig
Yeah, rhythm can definitely be thin if you don't layer. Usually though a double layer sounds about right and quadruple layer works good for REALLY beefy guitars. I should try using the 57 in conjuncture with the nuemann though and see if I get even better results.
Originally Posted by RiffGuyYou know, I've always had trouble getting a good hi-gain sound for recording. I usually use an SM57 with a PreSonus channel strip and I can never get that full, warm in-your-face sound. I always get a narrow grainy trebly sound with woofy bass. The sound is more distortion than actual note, if that makes sense. I do need to experiment some more, though.
Try whatever condensor mics you can get your hands on for that.
Originally Posted by Xeromusquot;the best EQ is mic placementquot;. Written on the mic closet in the studio I use.
It depends on the application, where to place mics.
^ That about says it all.
Lately, I put someone in the room with the amp amp; tell them to move the mic/mics around to different positions. I take my gtr (w/ 30ft monster cable) into my mixing room amp; play, listening through moniters, amp; 2 different pair of headphones.
- Sep 10 Fri 2010 21:01
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