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So im trying to decide between these too pickups. aparently the custom 5 has more low end then the Custom and sounds fuller (acording to the seymour duncan descriptions) but has way less midrange. Im relay looking for somthing thats balanced and full/large sounding for both rhythem and lead. Its going into a Les Paul Classic.


Originally Posted by wiggum655So im trying to decide between these too pickups. aparently the custom 5 has more low end then the Custom and sounds fuller (acording to the seymour duncan descriptions) but has way less midrange. Im relay looking for somthing thats balanced and full/large sounding for both rhythem and lead. Its going into a Les Paul Classic.

heard and used both the ceramic custom is the way to go trust me
the C5 is nice but is quot;emptyquot; sounding due to the dip in mids compared to the ceramic SH-5
the custom ceramic has the coolest sounding mids i ever heard they GROWL!


Originally Posted by WICKED LESTERheard and used both the ceramic custom is the way to go trust me
the C5 is nice but is quot;emptyquot; sounding due to the dip in mids compared to the ceramic SH-5
the custom ceramic has the coolest sounding mids i ever heard they GROWL!

I'm with Lester, also check out my pup breakdown in Skee's thread, that should help you out.

Luke

BTW the custom ceramic has plenty of low end!
makes my marshall stack start to roll away when doin palm mutes!

wow you guys are quick! Yea I was a bit weary of ceramic magnet pickups after using the 500t in my gibson, but now from what everyone is telling me the Custom has it all. Looks like ill be ordering one pretty soon. After that im going to replace the 496R's in the middle/neck positions(its the 3 pickup les paul classic), and im not sure which ones to go for, I love ballsy clean sounds so I was thinking a pair of 59 necks but if anyone has any interesting suggestions on pickups for those positions please chime in. Thanks again.

Jus t a little question related to your pickup search Wig.
When you got a 3 humbucker guitar like this, what type of bucker do you put in the middle position?
A second bridge or a second neck.

To help in your tone quest Wiggum, Theodie wrote an ode to the Pgn/Cb once that really enthousiaste me for this combo. I didn't try it yet but I will. So what for the mid pup now?

The 500T is not anything similiar to the Custom....to my ears.

I'd go with a set of Alnico 2 Pros, 59's, or Jazzes. Jazz has the best clarity to me not the boomyness you would normally hear in a neck slot.

Here is the other part of my breakdown, it's got the PAF style pups.

Antiquity---A pup that is hand made by Seymour or MJ that has been artificially aged. The magnet has been degaussed and the cover has been distresses along with the screws so as to appear vintage. Everything is done to make these pups as close to an original that you would buy from a collector that was out of a guitar that was played everyday and gigged with. They have complex mids and are smooth. They are available in A2 or A5 magnet varieties. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire

The 59---The 59 is the quintessential A5 PAF (patent applied for) pup. Imagine getting in a time machine and going back to 1959 and swiping a brand new A5 pup from the Gibson factory in Kalamazoo and bringing it forward to today. They have found most homes in many neck slots. It has symetrical coils and lots of quack. It has thumping bass, a scooped mid, and cutting highs. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire

The Seth Lover---This pup is as true to the original as can be. This pup is unpotted and comes standard with a gold, or nickel pup cover. It has an A2 magnet and has good quack and fair mids. For this pup imagine going back in time to 1955 and grabbing one of the very first PAF's before they debuted in the LP's. This pup is warm and creamy, but can also get bright with the tone knob on 10. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire

The Alnico 2 Pro---The warmest of the Duncan PAF line. It has symetrical coils and is a modern take on the A2 PAFs. It has round bass and smooth treble, it also has lots of mids to make the guitar really sing. It will warm up the coldest or shrillest of guitars. The most well known Alnico 2 Pro user is Slash of Velvet Revolver and GNR. Standard 4 Conductor Wire

Pearly Gates---The PG is the hottest of the Duncan PAF line. It has asymetrical (mismatched) coils and an A2 magnet. The mismatched coils give this particular pup its rude personality. It has a frequency push in the Presence/Cut knob frequency band. This is the quot;Sizzlequot; PG owner talk about. It has the most mids of the Ducan PAF line and is also the hottest. Its patron is Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. Standard 4 conductor Wire

The Jazz---The jazz is the pup that bridges the gap between Vintage and Modern pups. Its output is at or around the vintage level. Don't let the name fool you this pup is very versatile and smooth. It has an A5 magnet and is very widely used in the neck slot. It is articulate regardless of the tuning as well. This pup negociates cleans or overdrive very well. Standard 4 Conductor Wire

Luke

Did you write those descriptions Luke? If so, well done! Vault worthy IMO. Lew


Originally Posted by LewguitarDid you write those descriptions Luke? If so, well done! Vault worthy IMO. Lew

Yes sir I did, thank you very, VERY much!

I put those together from my own experience, and then some great terms that I gleaned from players whom I respect (yourself included).

Be careful, don't give me the big head!

Luke

Gibson put a second 496R neck pickup in the middle position, which is only on in the middle position of the guitar.I realy have no idea what would sound good in the middle. somthing with balls, warm, but not boomy for neck and then mabie somthing with a lot of bite for the middle position give the guitar some versitility.

o im trying to decide between these too pickups. aparently the custom 5 has more low end then the Custom and sounds fuller (acording to the seymour duncan descriptions) but has way less midrange. Im relay looking for somthing thats balanced and full/large sounding for both rhythem and lead. Its going into a Les Paul Classic.

i am going to get a C-5 in my epi les paul so if u do decide to get the c-5 can u give me some feedback